LPS Parking Shrewsbury

TreeTops_2

Hi!

I am hoping you can help. Last night my family and I stayed at the Premier Inn in Shrewsbury. We paid for 24 hour parking, when we got out of the car the parking ticket must have blown off the dashboard. Got up this morning to find a parking ticket with an attached cost of £85 or £50 if I pay it in 14 days.

I will be dropping LPS a line to challenge the "parking charge notice". I was wounding if any of you could give any advice.

Thanks in advance

Tree Tops

Coupon-mad

TreeTops wrote: »

Hi!

I am hoping you can help. Last night my family and I stayed at the Premier Inn in Shrewsbury. We paid for 24 hour parking, when we got out of the car the parking ticket must have blown off the dashboard. Got up this morning to find a parking ticket with an attached cost of £85 or £50 if I pay it in 14 days.

I will be dropping LPS a line to challenge the "parking charge notice". I was wounding if any of you could give any advice.

Thanks in advance

Tree Tops

Hold your horses! Unless yours is a company/hire car (giving you little choice) you do not respond to any windscreen fake PCN from a private company.

The reason for waiting for the first letter is because:

- some windscreen scam fake PCNs are never followed up (I had one like that)

- a windscreen PCN is normally 'found' by the driver and you do not want to be saying who was driving nor implying it (protects your position)

- they are VERY likely to breach the POFA with the Notice to Keeper wording or timeline or both, adds to your POPLA challenge points.


So basically you do need to wait and pick your moment to challenge, so they can dig a hole for you to bury them in at POPLA with a carefully-constructed appeal. There are other LPS threads on here and on pepipoo recently and we know their paperwork isn't compliant and their letters are normally sent out too late for them to rely on 'registered keeper liability'. I also know they use a solicitor at a later stage and have tried small claims before so they aren't a firm to ignore; no worries though, they are simply yet another PPC to beat at POPLA later on (with our help to word a winning POPLA appeal).

As they are a bit litigious and also non-compliant in their letters, with LPS there is even more reason for a driver to keep mum and for only the keeper to respond when a letter arrives (even if the driver and keeper are one and the same person).

In the meantime, phone up or drop a line to Premier Inn and ask them if they can cancel it, often Hotels can but tell them they MUST NOT Pass your details to the parking company (they can either cancel it or they can't, there is no sharing of info allowed, make that clear).

Also you may like to threaten or consider a bad tripadvisor review if they do not cancel it for you; Hotels don't like bad tripadvisor publicity!.

Guys_Dad

And, of course, you still have the parking ticket that you bought. Yes?

TreeTops_2

I do have the ticket, made sure of that.

Really nervous about ignoring this. Are you sure that the right thing to do? I've seen that this is call Fluttering Ticket, am I in a strong position?

Guys_Dad

TreeTops wrote: »

I do have the ticket, made sure of that.

Really nervous about ignoring this. Are you sure that the right thing to do? I've seen that this is call Fluttering Ticket, am I in a strong position?

On its own, you won't win with a fluttering ticket appeal to POPLA or the PPC. But that's not what you will appeal on.

Look at the sticky on POPLA APPEALS on this forum. You will see that all of the wins have been on procedure, not mitigation.

So read that thread and then have a good old read here http://www.popla.org.uk/AnnualReport.htm

Read his comments, see the stats and please do as this forum recommends.

1. Wait for the Notice to Keeper
2. Use a stroma soft appeal to the PPC, expecting a rejection.
3. Then hit POPLA with the real appeal, taking in all the procedural points that have been winners already, but with our help.

Keep a note of all dates of correspondence received to ensure that the PPC has adhered to BPA Code of Practice timescales and if you get the chance to check their signs for compliance, do that as well - see here http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_CoP_June_2013_update.pdf

Stroma

You are not ignoring this fake ticket, you are simply waiting for the Notice to Keeper that must arrive between days 28-56 after the incident. If it arrives early or late it's non compliant with the Peotection of Freedoms Act 2012. This then can be added to a popla appeal. Read about Popla on the sticky threads in the parking sub forum

Umkomaas

If I can add my twopennorth - the advice given in the preceding posts is absolutely the right course of action and comes from very experienced and knowledgeable senior forum members.

I know you can feel pressure when you're hit with your first PCN - private parking companies use that acronym because it's the same one used by local authorities. Big difference is LA tickets are backed by statute and are PENALTY Charge Notices, whereas PPC's are PARKING Charge Notices and have no statutory underpinning.

Do some more reading around this forum and the Pepipoo.com forum and gain some more confidence in managing your situation to a very satisfactory conclusion.

edward123

....and you can help the cause by spreading the word about the scam nature of these private parking company tickets and how to deal with them. And where a victim can read up and educate themselves and get advice and encouragement.

Coupon-mad

TreeTops wrote: »

I do have the ticket, made sure of that.

Really nervous about ignoring this. Are you sure that the right thing to do? I've seen that this is call Fluttering Ticket, am I in a strong position?

It's called that when it's a real Council ticket. But this is a private one so not a fine, not a 'fluttering ticket' situation. This is called a scam.

Please follow our advice, we know what we are doing and we can help you to word the POPLA appeal so that it wins (100% success rate so far with wording from here since March - which was when we learnt what POPLA like to decide on).