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Would you say anything to the builder ?

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  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    edited 28 June 2013 at 10:40PM
    I too agree that the tiling is poor...almost certainly to do with poor forward planning before commencing the job leading to an ever worsening situation and a final bodge..rough rough rough//
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  • john.h
    john.h Posts: 359 Forumite
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    mehera wrote: »
    Often is the way that we dont see eye to eye on these kind of things!

    Still we can still come to some kind of agreement whereby everyone is left happy to the best of our ability . .. .

    Is it you who done the tiling :D Its a bad diy job.. If it was my house i would not pay anything until it was put right...

    John...
  • Tyler_Du
    Tyler_Du Posts: 712 Forumite
    mehera wrote: »
    You were planning to deduct money when you settled up with the builder so he was right in that degree . . .

    Don't know where you got idea from, that was never my intention, I did wait until he'd finished the job and invoiced me before raising my concerns so that he didn't introduce extra charges on the invoice?
    mehera wrote: »
    Should you go to court a judge will not look in your favour if you have not given the contractor a chance to remedy any Problems

    You cannot just withhold payment or throw him off the job without attempting to fulfil the contract

    He refused to even acknowledge that there was an issue with the quality of his work in the first place.
  • southcoastrgi
    southcoastrgi Posts: 6,298 Forumite
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    I wonder if the newbi is the builder ;)
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • mehera
    mehera Posts: 153 Forumite
    I am not disputing that the tiling is poor!

    It seemed to me a little harsh trashing a builder due to some of the work being substandard.

    Do I think that the tiling is a 'DIY' job? No . . ..

    Even the OP stated that the rest of the work was fine so why is everyone being so over the top about essentially a single row of poorly aligned tiles?

    On some of the jobs I have been called on to I have seen 10 times worse than that!

    It seems a little OTT. If you have a problem with the guys work tell him straight away and get it sorted - simples!

    Expecting him to add extras to the work in revenge is heresay and unfair - you do not know he will do that do you?

    It is very easy to shout 'Cowboy' these days.

    How would you like it if you finished your week at work and the boss says to you, 'You stacked them boxes wrong last Tuesday so I am deducting a days pay because of it!??.'

    I sure you would think it quite unfair!

    I am sorry to have such contentious opinions but that is just me . . .
    I was going to put the name of my plumbing business here so you know what I do should I give out any advice plumbing wise - however apparently I cant do that - go figure!!!!!
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  • gazman100
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    Have to say I'm kind of with mehera here. The original question was should you raise it, and the answer you chose was yes - fair enough, but waiting until he's invoiced you and left the job seems a little late!
  • southcoastrgi
    southcoastrgi Posts: 6,298 Forumite
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    I do agree that the timing wasn't right & the OP should have said they weren't happy with the quality of the work when they first noticed it & not left it until they got the invoice,

    i haven't really seen anyone mention cowboy so I'm not quite sure why mehera keeps ref to that.

    the cut above the door is poor workmanship & unless the two cut bits add up to a full tile then it's not as easy as just replacing this tile, because it will then either leave a large grout line or completely need the rest of the tiles to the right removed & re-done.

    there is no excuse for using the wrong size spacers, those size grout lines are the size you would have on floor tiles not wall tiles.

    the wc wall just hasn't been set out correctly & he should have started from the center of the window & not from the right hand corner, the only way to sort this out now is to remove the tiles & re-do it, setting it out correctly.

    the rest of the tiling looks ok to me, but the fact that he thought it was perfectly acceptable to 1st do it like that, 2nd leave it like that & think it's perfectly ok, just shows that he was trying to blagg it,

    IMO the cost to re-do that if the OP had to get another trade in to put it right could be anywhere from £150-£500 depending if the tiles come off ok or it needs some plaster replacing, or the wall needs re-doing from the corner of the door.

    I wouldn't say the builder was a cowboy from those pics, i think he hasn't got the correct tools & he hasn't thought about setting out
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • theonlywayisup
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    I think my suggestion is better than yours. Although both will soon be gone. ;)
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