Why a macbook is a good investment.

andrewjf

jaydeeuk1 wrote: »

Are you a retard, a spammer, or both? If you want a discussion, at least come armed with facts.

Well I initially thought 'troll', but now I just think 'uninformed'.

Idiophreak

Mankysteve wrote: »

As macs become more popular there more and more spyware and virus appearing out there

...and as viruses become more prevalent you can bet your bottom dollar apple will manage to spin "ant-iVirus" as an amazing feature nobody's ever thought of before....and charge a pretty penny for [STRIKE]mugs[/STRIKE] mac users to get this amazing feature.

paddyrg

These days these discussions are pretty redundant and have all been done before.

However one thing I am not find of from the Apple camp is the incompatibilities they promote. I think the thundercats (whatever they're called, something like that) connectors are cynical, when a device has no standard ports just thundercats ones which require adaptors to become monitor ports, hard drive ports, ethernet ports, etc. These adaptors are staggeringly expensive as they have a special chip in the cable so you can't get cheapo versions, but have to bend over for another reaming on price for the official ones.

may be clever electronics behind it, whatever, point is the end result is that the company is treating its customers abusively, and that isn't a relationship I'm in any kind of rush to get into.

Mr_Toad

paddyrg wrote: »

These days these discussions are pretty redundant and have all been done before.

However one thing I am not find of from the Apple camp is the incompatibilities they promote. I think the thundercats (whatever they're called, something like that) connectors are cynical, when a device has no standard ports just thundercats ones which require adaptors to become monitor ports, hard drive ports, ethernet ports, etc. These adaptors are staggeringly expensive as they have a special chip in the cable so you can't get cheapo versions, but have to bend over for another reaming on price for the official ones.

may be clever electronics behind it, whatever, point is the end result is that the company is treating its customers abusively, and that isn't a relationship I'm in any kind of rush to get into.

Thunderbolt isn't an Apple invention, it was developed by Intel and is a combination of PCiE and display port. Similar to USB it allows many devices to connected to the same port.

There are already Thunderbolt devices out there and they may become more common in the not too distant future or Thunderbolt may fall by the wayside.

You should be looking at your relationship with Intel not Apple in this particular case.

Idiophreak

Gratis wrote: »

http://www.iantivirus.com/product/

Available now. From the Apple Store. Free.

Free...for now...while there's essentially no market for it.

Don't think Apple are above taking something that was free and trying to close it down and charge...take DRM for instance. Then, of course, Apple get to go their magic trick again...taking something away, charging for it, then giving it back again and have people bow down at their unbridled generosity. Genius.

Gratis

Ha, ha! :rotfl:

I was only pulling your leg, Idiophreak, because of the name you came up with (and your heretical irreverence for Mac users. )

iAntivirus does have its supporters but there were CPU and RAM hogging problems with it a few years ago and many abandoned it, then.

Personally, I run Sophos (also free :money:) on my Macs, for now, and Avast on our lone and rarely-used Winbox.

Frankly, the main reason for having anti-malware on Macs is still the risk of passing on to a Windows contraption something malignant to which Macs are immune.

But one needs to keep a safely backed-up Mac system disc stashed away on a bootable DVD and I certainly agree that one needs to keep an ever-vigilant eye on potential threats and changing situations. So does Apple.

As you point out, such has been the success of Apple in marketing extravagantly priced music players and mobile ‘phones to [STRIKE]the unwashed masses[/STRIKE] a wider section of the public that [STRIKE] an alarming number[/STRIKE] many of these [STRIKE] sheep-like oiks[/STRIKE] Windows users are now converting to Mac OS X for their computing needs and swelling Apple’s market share to a level that that makes it more appealing to the [STRIKE]vile pond-life who should be castrated, dunked in a vat of acid, doused in petrol and set alight[/STRIKE] misguided writers of malicious software who need some gentle guidance and re-education in how to apply their computing skills.

So, take no offence.

I’ll let you off lightly and just sentence you to ten “Hail Jobs” for your earlier sacrilege.

In granting you this exceptional degree of leniency I am taking into account your noble record of charitable work in assisting on MSE the [STRIKE]fools[/STRIKE] unfortunate souls who have [STRIKE] stupidly[/STRIKE] innocently [STRIKE]blighted[/STRIKE] endowed their computers with Windows.

Anyway, I’d better end this now and [STRIKE]go to the pub for lunch[/STRIKE] do some work.

:beer:

almillar

Sorry, I wasn't clear - the RAM and hard drive are upgradeable on the Mac Mini, but NOT the CPU. This doesn't count as 'fully upgradeable' as above. I would also say that the original Intel Mac Mini (as in with an optical drive) is NOT easily upgradeable with a high risk of damage to the case. The newer one, you just twist off the base to get at the RAM and (I think) hard drive.

zagubov

I'm still using a mac from 2002 with Tiger and Leopard. Running MS Office 2004 and OpenOffice plus Appleworks, using TenFourFox Roccat and Webkit browsers, lets me use webmail. Plays DVDs, stores my music, updates my iPod, streams iPlayer and Youtube, prints my work stuff and maps for driving, making backups with Time Machine. Syncs Dropbox and Sugarsync, still lets me use Spoitfy (though there;s alwats We7.com)

Can run Windoze software with Virtual PC if needed. Reads ebooks from the library. No viruses /malware.

Got plenty of limitations but does loads of jobs really well and newer versions of the software don't seem to be as good as let alone better. Would recommend them to anybody.

Only thing is I'm not sure if they;'ll always be so futureproof. I think it's more likely that computers became optimal for most domestic needs in the early- 2000s and everything else is just gimmicry to keep sales going.:)

Wickwar

Had my Macbook pro since mid 2009 works fine with very heavy use put in new battery (£46) & new tracker pad (£26) Ram & Hard drive was easy to upgrade myself no need to pay a fortune to apple.But I know after Osx Mavericks I'll be stuck as Apple wont support my model any more.I would buy another Macbook as I know they last BUT I also know they are overpriced.

almillar

I'd like to see that 2002 computer that can do YouTube in HD...