tv went bang ( surge protector)?

stranger12

hi all,

i had a water burst and when the guy came to fix it he did unattached the grounding cable (yellow and brown) and replaced the pipe.

he did not reattach it when done and said they will send a technition to come and test it then install it back .
the pipe was insulated with fiber material
my question is , is that the grounding for my flat ?

i am asking because a week after that while raining during the night my tv was left on overnight, when woke up , i tried to watch tv but did not turn on.

i checked the surge protector and the light on it was off . after toggling the socket switch on and off no change so end up changing the surge protector fuse which fixed the issue.

but when i plugged my tv to it , and switched it, the tv went bang and never turned on again.

what could have that being due to ? would it be the fact that maybe my home wiring was not grounded?

if that is the case, i will sue the management company

Thanks for all contributions to my post

rmg1

It sounds more like something internal to the TV to be honest.
Although, having said that, the surge protector should have just kept blowing fuses (in theory).

Did you swap the fuse for one of the same rating or higher?

Hasbeen

Your home wiring is earthed at the consumer unit.

The green/YELLOW wire is earth bonding to the copper pipes to provide protection if pipe becomes live.

Check your TV model to see if it has an internal fuse

SplanK

LOL @ suing the management company! What a world we have created for ourselves.





First of all, the earth that's disconnected from the pipe would be protecting the pipe. The earth in your electrical socket should feed straight back through to the consumer unit, at no point should this "tap into" plumping!



A surge protector is a simple "pressure release valve" as such. Generally units will leak additional current away from your equipment in an attempt to protect it. A fuse blowing could have been the result of a surge, but more than likely if the TV has gone pop, it could have requested far to much power as a component started to fail and it blew to protect the cable. The TV fuse may not have blown because it may have been a higher rating than the one in the surge protector, or the surge protector was more "trigger happy" when it came to popping!

By re-energising a fault component, you could have pushed what ever faulty component over the edge and thus releasing the magic blue smoke from the back of the unit. It could have been the fact you had left it switched on, it could have over heated (through lack of ventilation, build up of dust on the inside and generally the weather being quite warm!) resulting in it going pop!


A real surge will usually take out more than just one item. I remember when I was living at my parents and the main conductor wiring in the street became faulty in several places, a sheath around the cable broke down and caused all sorts of funny effects, including pumping 430v into the house rather than the standard 220v. That made a lot of things warm, blew a LOT of fuses, and blew a lot of transformers unit in into units or external step down transformers. The entire street was effected.

stranger12

thanks for the advise. i am no good at home electrical hence why i asked

you are correct , the room tempreture was warm but not hot , around 25-30 degree and not much oxygen as the door was shut overnight.

when we say the tv might have fuse, do i have to open the tv to check this or does it simply has a lid somewhere behind the tv .

it poped an a bit os smoking smell but no color etc . the smell wasn't very strong either. it is a 50" TV and paid £900ish so don't want to bin it after 2 years or so.

what do you think my options are ?
i can do diy stuff as long as it does not involve soldering etc ( for instance can change a board if that is all needed)

or should i just bin it and buy a new one

paddyrg

I don't think it's necessarily fit for the bin just yet. If you've checked the fuse in the plug is ok, then it is time to have the back off the telly (probably hard work on a 50", have it flat on its face to do this) - do make sure it's unplugged before you start! Near where the power enters the telly should be a power board - transformer and some fuses, have a check of the fuses and whilst there look for any burnt out looking things, or capacitors looking bloated

McKneff

Put a quilt or something down on the floor if you are going to lie it on its face.

SplanK

DONT crack it open yet. If you can smell a burning smell then its not going to be an internal fuse, chances are the power supply unit, has blown!

If its 2 years old then you can claim that the TV has not lasted as long as expected under the sales of good act. If you bought it on a credit card you may have more backup there

Ignore the fact that the TV maybe "out of warranty" - a warranty is just a way to screw people out of their rights.

Sales of good act allows a person who purchases an item *UP TO* 6 years to claim a manuf defect. Now the up to bit is varies depending on the item and the cost, so a TV that's £900 you would expect to last a good 3-4 years *AT LEAST*

You can try going back to the shop where you bought it from, however most will just direct you to the manuf help line. You have to stick to your guns with them as they will try and fob you off. If the manuf does not want to know, then go into the shop with the receipt and speak to them. Don't scream and shout and just remind them of the sales of good act, and that the item that is now faulty should be repaired free of charge as it should have lasted longer. Again you may be fobbed off but if you stick to your guns and have a bit of a "raised voice" the manager should at least step in and sort out your situation.

Before going down this road, I suggest you do a bit of reading up on your rights so when you hit a !!!!!! of a sales rep/call centre, you are well prepared!

Do not mention anything that they could use against you. There is no point mentioning the works, its not related, no point saying it was left on all night. Just state the facts that the unit was working, a fuse popped in a surge protector so it was replaced, then the burning smell from the device.

Idiophreak

SplanK wrote: »

Just state the facts that the unit was working, a fuse popped in a surge protector so it was replaced, then the burning smell from the device.

I'd be tempted to leave out the surge protector altogether. I think "I went to turn it on and it popped" is around where you start the story from...

Mentioning the surge protector is just asking them to pass the buck.

SplanK

Good call ^^

poppellerant

If asked if the TV is plugged into an extension, tell them no to that also. As far as they are concerned, the TV is plugged straight into wall socket, you turned it on, then pop!