Young Adults Renting Premium Property

Catherine_Johnson_2

I'm not sure why anyone who's earning between £25k and £40k would want to share with four others when they could easily rent, or possibly buy, a place of their own.

Also, as a LL, I'd be very wary about renting to 5 young men. It might seem wrong, but I wouldn't be so bothered about that number of girls together.

If a LL seems reluctant I would try offering a larger deposit, which may help. But, as someone has already mentioned, renting with four other friends is a recipe for disaster. You're not students now. By the sounds of it you don't need to live together for financial reasons.

You'd find it easier to rent if there's less of you, or you on your own, and it may save your friendship long term.

19lottie82

martinsurrey wrote: »

A lot of misinformation about HMO's on here.

A Licenceis required if the building is more than 2 stories, and rented to more than one household, unless the local council has implemented tougher criteria.

Ah OK, that's not the case everywhere tho, as I live in Glasgow and the number of stories doesn't come in to it, just the number of unrelated people under one roof.

I think a lot of LL's would rather rent a large property to a family, rather than a group of friends. Again, unforeseen problems can occur for tenants AND the LL, if someone decides to move out or not pay their share.

Dave_the_Ginger_Cat

19lottie82 wrote: »

I think a lot of LL's would rather rent a large property to a family, rather than a group of friends. Again, unforeseen problems can occur for tenants AND the LL, if someone decides to move out or not pay their share.

This can be geographic, though. Here in London, a house with 5 beds would be more likley to be let to a number of professionals as a share than to a family.

I would talk to good quality letting agents, preferably ARLA registered, and explain what you'd like to do - I would expect Brighton to be a place where this is a viable option, but go for a quality agent wihe quality houses. May cost you a little more in the short term, but may help in the longer

thelem

adz0rz wrote: »

Thanks, i had a look at the link to Brighton and Hove HMO and it said the attic/basement only counts as a storey if it is part of the living accomadation. Does that mean as a bedroom or just usable as a attic?

Just to clarify.... If there was only four of us would this mean we could live anywhere?

No, an attic that is just used for storage wouldn't count.

HMO would not be an issue for four of you unless you wanted to live in one of the studenty areas of Brighton (you'd be fine in Hove). Specifically the five wards mentioned on the Brighton HMO page:

• Hanover & Elm Grove
• Moulsecoomb & Bevendean
• St Peter's & North Laine
• Hollingdean & Stanmer
• Queen's Park

These are all close to Lewes Road - see them on a map at:

http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/sites/brighton-hove.gov.uk/files/Councillor%20Ward%20Map_june2013.pdf

thelem

19lottie82 wrote: »

Ah OK, that's not the case everywhere tho, as I live in Glasgow and the number of stories doesn't come in to it, just the number of unrelated people under one roof.

Property laws are very different in Scotland.

thelem

Catherine_Johnson wrote: »

Also, as a LL, I'd be very wary about renting to 5 young men. It might seem wrong, but I wouldn't be so bothered about that number of girls together.

That would be illegal in most circumstances (including those being discussed here), although proving sexual discrimination in court could be difficult.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/discrimination_e/discrimination_discrimination_because_of_sex_or_sexual_orientation_e/taking_action_about_sex_discrimination.htm#sex_discrimination_in_housing

_Andy_

"I'm not sure why anyone who's earning between £25k and £40k would want to share with four others when they could easily rent, or possibly buy, a place of their own."

25k and renting/buying on their own in Brighton - yeah right

retepetsir

_Andy_ wrote: »

"I'm not sure why anyone who's earning between £25k and £40k would want to share with four others when they could easily rent, or possibly buy, a place of their own."

25k and renting/buying on their own in Brighton - yeah right

What he said :rotfl:

red40

The simple answer to the OP thread is that once you have more than 2 unrelated people who form 2 seperate households under the provisions of the Housing Act 2004 you are a HMO.

The only time storeys become an issue is for mandatory licensing or additional licensing, regardlesss of this it is down to the number of unrelated people occupying a property. If you arent related to a person each person becomes a separate household.

You and your friends could rent a bungalow and you would still be a HMO! So you would have to find a landlord that would be willing to rent to all of you with the added implications HMO rules and regulations entail, although to be honest the management regulations aren't that difficult to implement.

HTH

Angelicdevil

red40 wrote: »

The simple answer to the OP thread is that once you have more than 2 unrelated people who form 2 seperate households under the provisions of the Housing Act 2004 you are a HMO.

The only time storeys become an issue is for mandatory licensing or additional licensing, regardlesss of this it is down to the number of unrelated people occupying a property. If you arent related to a person each person becomes a separate household.

You and your friends could rent a bungalow and you would still be a HMO! So you would have to find a landlord that would be willing to rent to all of you with the added implications HMO rules and regulations entail, although to be honest the management regulations aren't that difficult to implement.

HTH

I'm afraid this is not correct in this instance. The OP has been given the correct information for B&H in previous posts.

Cornucopia wrote: »

Yes. The rules say: "occupied by five or more people forming two or more households"

And OP, I'm guessing you probably already know but just incase, you wouldn't want to rent/live in any of these areas:

• Hanover & Elm Grove
• Moulsecoomb & Bevendean
• St Peter's & North Laine
• Hollingdean & Stanmer
• Queen's Park