Forced to renew Driving License?

Jamie_Carter

smashingyour... wrote: »

Wrong you wannabe.

What do I wannabe???

Guest101

smashingyour... wrote: »

So how does that work in relation to producing a licence?

If you don't produce it the offence is complete.

Whether you are prosecuted or not is a different matter. The offence is still complete.

There is no offence, unless you are prosecuted. Or you accept a fine - IE dealt with outside of court - pleading guilty to the offence.

The incident never happened, in the eyes of the law.

smashingyour...

Guest101 wrote: »

There is no offence, unless you are prosecuted. Or you accept a fine - IE dealt with outside of court - pleading guilty to the offence.

The incident never happened, in the eyes of the law.

Wrong.

So if your house is burgled overnight, there is no offence until someone is prosecuted?

Jamie_Carter

Can we get this thread back on topic for the sake of the OP please.

Guest101

smashingyour... wrote: »

Wrong.

So if your house is burgled overnight, there is no offence until someone is prosecuted?

LOL, what an example.

But no, if you want to get technical, a crime has been commited, and you will get a crime reference number. and you can claim on the insurance.

BUT are you suggesting then, that the suspect the police have in mind, is guilty of the offence, before he has gone to court?

Your example is rubbish. A better example is - assault and self-defence. You may strike someone, and would technically be liable for charge of assault, however, if you were acting in self-defence / or defence of another, that is your defence, and no offence has taken place (on your part)

smashingyour...

Guest101 wrote: »

LOL, what an example.

But no, if you want to get technical, a crime has been commited, and you will get a crime reference number. and you can claim on the insurance.

BUT are you suggesting then, that the suspect the police have in mind, is guilty of the offence, before he has gone to court?

Your example is rubbish. A better example is - assault and self-defence. You may strike someone, and would technically be liable for charge of assault, however, if you were acting in self-defence / or defence of another, that is your defence, and no offence has taken place (on your part)

You commit the offence when you fail to produce the licence same as you do when you're drunk on licenced premises. Whether you are convicted is not the issue.

Guest101

smashingyour... wrote: »

You commit the offence when you fail to produce the licence same as you do when you're drunk on licenced premises. Whether you are convicted is not the issue.

Prove that i commited the offence then.

Sorry but you're just wrong. That's not how the legal system works. If you you think it is, I hope you never get pulled over etc. Because it sounds like you'll be your own worst enemy.

rochja

According to a DVLA spokesman, qualified drivers are still entitled to drive a vehicle if their licence has expired, but what they must be aware of is that they could be charged with the offence of failing to renew their licence. If the matter went to court, then the motorist could end up with a £1,000 fine. The spokesman went on to say that the reason photocard licences needed to be renewed every ten years was because people's faces would change over that period, so updates are essential.

That is OK so far as it goes and demonstrates that if you give up driving or drive beyond 10 years and don't surrender the licence the most that can happen is a fine. However, that is only what can happen. For a prosecution to proceed it must be deemed to be in the public interest. Failing to do anything with a licence you don't use is unlikely to be deemed worthy of prosecution. Taking this one step further, you cannot be forced to obtain a photo ID whilst your licence is valid and therefore cannot even be considered for prosecution but once you hit a certain age you will be forced to obtain photo ID if you wish to continue driving and hence could after 10 years face prosecution for failure to renew which I am tempted to argue is challengable as it is ageist.

mgdavid

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

What do I wannabe???

locked up.

smashingyour...

Guest101 wrote: »

Prove that i commited the offence then.

Sorry but you're just wrong. That's not how the legal system works. If you you think it is, I hope you never get pulled over etc. Because it sounds like you'll be your own worst enemy.

So by you logic, if you in through a speed camera the police have 14 days to send a nip from the date of conviction.