Tacho laws & rest periods.

forgotmyname

So you cannot have 3 x 15 minute breaks anymore?

The above link says you can have 30 minute breaks. Is that out of date?

Blimey i think i need to checkup on this before i renew my HGV. Or do i let it expire?

skivenov

Pull your card out, and tell him to move it on his?

banger9365

right ,you need a break before or on 4.5 hours driving off 45minutes or in two parts 15 mintes and 30 minutes
you also need a break off 30 minutes before 6 hours working ,
it can be taken in two parts one 15 mintues and the second part 30 minutes must not be less ,
so you do 4.5 hours driving within 6 hours you still need a driving break off 45 minutes ,the working time break can be part off your driving break,so your working time break is not need until you have done anther 6 hours work,POA can extend this by how must POA you have

Loganfire

forgotmyname wrote: »

So you cannot have 3 x 15 minute breaks anymore?

The above link says you can have 30 minute breaks. Is that out of date?

Blimey i think i need to checkup on this before i renew my HGV. Or do i let it expire?

thats correct u can no longer have 3 x 15 mins

Originally Posted by Loganfire
We are going to agree to disagree on this as I know it to be 30 mins could not find anything on the VOAS hand book on this but I did find this on ACAS site.

"The Working Time Regulations (WTR) don't specifically say anything about lunch breaks, but do allow for one uninterrupted 20-minute rest break during the working day, provided the working period is longer than 6 hours."

If this is for a normal worker such as office staff retail etc. It shows your 15 mins is against the working time regulations
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/639/regulation/7/made

Your post shows WTD for general workers. The WTD for mobile workers is different.
Last edited by kevin0410; Yesterday at 11:15 PM.

So you are wrong then as you can see from your own link and i quote

Breaks

7.—(1) No mobile worker shall work for more than six hours without a break.

(2) Where a mobile worker’s working time exceeds six hours but does not exceed nine hours, the worker shall be entitled to a break lasting at least 30 minutes and interrupting that time.

kevin0410

Loganfire wrote: »

So you are wrong then as you can see from your own link and i quote

Breaks

7.—(1) No mobile worker shall work for more than six hours without a break.

(2) Where a mobile worker’s working time exceeds six hours but does not exceed nine hours, the worker shall be entitled to a break lasting at least 30 minutes and interrupting that time.

I'm right.

Breaks

7.—(1) No mobile worker shall work for more than six hours without a break.

(4) Each break may be made up of separate periods of not less than 15 minutes each.

I'm not sure why you quoted number 2 anyway as we are discussing work up to 6 hours.

gilbert_and_sullivan

banger9365 wrote: »

right ,you need a break before or on 4.5 hours driving off 45minutes or in two parts 15 mintes and 30 minutes
you also need a break off 30 minutes before 6 hours working ,
it can be taken in two parts one 15 mintues and the second part 30 minutes must not be less ,
so you do 4.5 hours driving within 6 hours you still need a driving break off 45 minutes ,the working time break can be part off your driving break,so your working time break is not need until you have done anther 6 hours work,POA can extend this by how must POA you have

The WTD break you refer to has been updated within the last 2 years.

This is nothing to do with driving regs by the way, which you are absolutely correct on.

You no longer need to have a 30 minute break before 6 hours has expired, if you take a 15 minute break (must be completed before 6 hours is reached) then you can work up to 9 hours before you must take that half hour.


Attn Forgotmyname.

Its not just a case of not letting your licence expire, remember you will also have had to complete 35 hours of periodic training by Sept 2014, *double check that date in case* for the DCPC (Drivers CPC) if you wish to drive HGV's after that date.
This 35 hours covers you for 5 years only, rinse and repeat.

Its all cobblers, you won't learn a thing thats useful, but its a nice little earner for those involved.and an extra tax for the govt thats bankrupt...thankyou all of those who voted EU.

Tilt

forgotmyname wrote: »

So you cannot have 3 x 15 minute breaks anymore?

The above link says you can have 30 minute breaks. Is that out of date?

Blimey i think i need to checkup on this before i renew my HGV. Or do i let it expire?

It's up to date I believe.

Tilt

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

The WTD break you refer to has been updated within the last 2 years.

This is nothing to do with driving regs by the way, which you are absolutely correct on.

You no longer need to have a 30 minute break before 6 hours has expired, if you take a 15 minute break (must be completed before 6 hours is reached) then you can work up to 9 hours before you must take that half hour.


Attn Forgotmyname.

Its not just a case of not letting your licence expire, remember you will also have had to complete 35 hours of periodic training by Sept 2014, *double check that date in case* for the DCPC (Drivers CPC) if you wish to drive HGV's after that date.
This 35 hours covers you for 5 years only, rinse and repeat.

Its all cobblers, you won't learn a thing thats useful, but its a nice little earner for those involved.and an extra tax for the govt thats bankrupt...thankyou all of those who voted EU.

It's Sept this year for PCV's.

gilbert_and_sullivan

Tilt wrote: »

It's Sept this year for PCV's.

Yes i recall the training geezer at my last DCPC session mentioning that, see we did learn something during those 7 hours of complete waste...;)

WasntMe_2

Just reading through this again & am just wondering how this turned from:

Was the transport manager correct (saying to write on the rear of the tacho)
To
A debate on what order the 15s, 30s & 45s can be taken in??

Oh & as for pull my card - aren't you not supposed to pull your card when it's recording a break?