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another tale of parking prankster vs highview

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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,830 Forumite
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    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
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    Wonderful!
    I love reading "Parking Prankster's Adventures in PPC Land".
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    Parking Poker - love it :)
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    As entertaining as it is and as enlightening of Highview's thinking I can't help thinking that PP's approach might just give some power to the BPA's elbow in terms of limiting points of appeal to POPLA to those previously used with the PPC. Still a good laugh though.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    I can't see that happening HO87, what happens if something else crops up proving your case after you submitted something to the parking company? And if it doesn't happen at PATAS why should it happen with popla?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Parking-Prankster
    Parking-Prankster Posts: 313 Forumite
    edited 14 June 2013 at 11:25AM
    HO87 wrote: »
    As entertaining as it is and as enlightening of Highview's thinking I can't help thinking that PP's approach might just give some power to the BPA's elbow in terms of limiting points of appeal to POPLA to those previously used with the PPC. Still a good laugh though.

    I would hope not. I always initially appeal to POPLA on the grounds that I use in my appeal, which are usually 'I was not parked at these times'.

    In the case of Highview sending in a map of the wrong car park, I initially appealed on the usual grounds but was laughing so much when I received their evidence pack that I was forced to send an email to POPLA retracting my initial appeal, and replacing it with a new one. Highview had over a month to send in an updated map, but it seems they could not be bothered. I have similar case which should be adjudicated any day now, but it looks like they will not be 'spurred into immediate action' by their recent POPLA loss and send an updated map in for that one either.

    In the case of Highview going over the 14 and 35 day limits, I wrote to them explaining they had gone over the time limit and saying I would ask POPLA to decide on this issue if they did not cancel and they still sent me a POPLA code.

    I have nothing but admiration for Highview's utter belief that POPLA's rules do not apply to them; in the way that you can admire someone who believes that the world is flat and remains true to their conviction despite all evidence to the contrary.

    :-)
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  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Stroma wrote: »
    I can't see that happening HO87, what happens if something else crops up proving your case after you submitted something to the parking company?
    Indeed, but your point could be argued to confer on POPLA the very thing that the BPA wants - recognition as a judicial body as far as parking on private land is concerned.
    Stroma wrote: »
    And if it doesn't happen at PATAS why should it happen with popla?
    Because PATAS is established under statute and POPLA is the BPA's toy maybe? Since when has the BPA avoided changing the rules when it suits? ;)
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    HO87 wrote: »
    As entertaining as it is and as enlightening of Highview's thinking I can't help thinking that PP's approach might just give some power to the BPA's elbow in terms of limiting points of appeal to POPLA to those previously used with the PPC. Still a good laugh though.
    Stroma wrote: »
    I can't see that happening HO87, what happens if something else crops up proving your case after you submitted something to the parking company? And if it doesn't happen at PATAS why should it happen with popla?

    It would be entirely contrary to natural justice if it was not possible to submit new defence points when POPLA was considering the case. If your original appeal mithered on about the ticket blowing away & the kids screaming but then after some research you discovered that there are so many other points on which an appeal should be made e.g. breach of CoP, NTK outside POFA timescales etc it would be quite outrageous if POPLA were prevented from considering those points.

    POPLA may be the BPA's b!tch but they like to give the appearance of independence.
  • KieKat
    KieKat Posts: 1 Newbie
    HI

    I have received a parking ticket today from UK CPS Ltd. I had paid the required amount to park but unfortunately my ticket fell off the dashboard so was not on display. Do I pay the fineof £60? Or ignore it?

    Thanks
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Can you please post a new thread instead of hijacking this one - thanks
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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