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Ukps or uk parking solutions! Help! 'Invoice'

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Bit off topic, but hope you gave him some back. These scum bags are worse than 'Civil enforcement officers'
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    So it's a waiting game now.

    Spend the time reading some threads about any PPC appeals and POPLA - ready to challenge with the right words, if they do write to the keeper.
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  • Guest101 wrote: »
    Bit off topic, but hope you gave him some back. These scum bags are worse than 'Civil enforcement officers'

    I had the good sense to video him doing it to someone else, horrible horrible man, thanks for all replies.
  • Hi
    I have finally received a letter from bpa can anyone help in regards to this asking for payment, i checked with the council and parts of "upper fifth street" are private but it is all called " upper fifth street".
    Many thanks for your help
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    Who is writing to you? It's not the bpa asking for money it's somebody else
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Stroma wrote: »
    Who is writing to you? It's not the bpa asking for money it's somebody else

    Sorry i read the letter in a rush (bad day) , its parking collection services.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    They are useless debt collectors, and just debt recovery plus pretending to be someone else, you can ignore or try this from Daisy

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4814108
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Stroma wrote: »
    They are useless debt collectors, and just debt recovery plus pretending to be someone else, you can ignore or try this from Daisy

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4814108

    Thanks so much, what is the best option in your expert opinion?
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    If you read the thread, you will see there are varying opinions and the reasons. Some people prefer to ignore, some people prefer to be proactive. Neither is right or wrong. Stroma makes his position clear, as do others. Read the thread, listen to the arguments, and make up your own mind based on what has been said and how you view the issues.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    edited 8 November 2013 at 8:33PM
    But this is the FIRST letter since the windscreen ticket isn't it? So treat it as if it's a Notice to Keeper and reply thusly by post to PCS and to UKPS:




    Dear PCS, aka Debt Recovery Plus, and UKPS as well,

    It's a strange situation when the first thing a Registered Keeper knows about a fake parking ticket is when a notorious debt collector letter arrives out of the blue.

    Do you not have a Notice to Keeper in your template letters? Have you lost your diaries or simply cannot count up to 56 days?

    Have you read schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 or is UKPS not bothering to invoke keeper liability then?

    As such, you will know that there is no possibility of registered keeper liability without a compliant NTK being sent to me in time after the alleged parking incident. You will also know that I have no legal duty to divulge the name of the driver, so I won't. As well as arguing 'no keeper liability' my appeal includes the fact that any charge is not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and so breaches the BPA Code of Practice, and that UKPS do not own this land so have no legal standing to allege any loss.

    And you will know - I hope, as UKPS are AOS members for some reason - that you now have to either reject my appeal or give me a POPLA code. If you don't, particularly if you obfuscate and pretend in some template reply that the driver has to be named, then I will immediately report UKPS to the BPA Ltd and DVLA AOS Compliance Managers.

    PCS: Now that PCS know this charge is disputed you must pass the file back to UKPS who must address my appeal as Keeper, in response to this sorry attempt at a 'Notice to Keeper'. Take formal note, regarding the OFT debt collection guidelines, that any further contact from yourselves (PCS, DRP or Zenith or whatever you care to call yourselves) will be considered harassment and a breach of the DPA since you no longer have cause to store or use my data under these circumstances where an alleged debt is denied and disputed. I will report PCS to the CSA and OFT, as well as to the Information Commissioner, should you contact me again about this matter.

    UKPS: accept or reject my appeal within the required 35 days.

    Yours,



    THE REGISTERED KEEPER'S NAME (they do not need your real signature so DO NOT give it, just squiggle).
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