registering your car under a made up name

Euphoria1z

Hi

was watching some program and someone mentioned briefly that you can actually register your car under a trust ...ie a family trust or something similar...

this got me thinking (and i havent given it much thought to be honest but)

what if you register your car under a made up name? either at your own address or an address that you have access to? so your no longer the legal/registered keeper of the vehicle and therefore not legally liable for anything.

what hppens in terms of notices to registered keeper? say you get a prking ticket, you ignore, it goes to the registered keeper, Mr A !!!!. Mr !!!! ignores the parking ticket, notice to owner etc...then what happens?

some one comes knocking on the door, looking for the registered keeper, Mr !!!!...well hes not in.... dont know where he is?


so in instances where the registered keeper is liable for offences where it cant be proven who was driving the vehicle (i.e speeding where theres no photo of the driver, or a parking ticket) how does Mr !!!! get caught?

currently when you register a vehicle, i dont think theres any checks done to make sure the person is real is there? you just need a name and an address? and anyone could be living at your address?

what have i missed?

albionrovers

So everyone does this and no-one is liable for anything any longer.

Yip, pretty much sums up the attitude of modern day Britain.

Gloomendoom

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I think section 43C of The Vehicle Excise and Registration Act may apply in this case (Offence of using an incorrectly registered vehicle.)

Tigsteroonie

How does Mr A !!!! give you permission to drive his car? Otherwise surely you are TWOC?

Euphoria1z

Gloomendoom wrote: »

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I think section 43C of The Vehicle Excise and Registration Act may apply in this case (Offence of using an incorrectly registered vehicle.)

how would it be proved that it is incorrectly registered?

i mean whats required to register a vehicle? a name and an address?

Euphoria1z

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

How does Mr A !!!! give you permission to drive his car? Otherwise surely you are TWOC?

the same way my dad gives me permission to drive his car, verbally... wouldnt some one need to make an allegation that a car is driven without permission?

molerat

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/contents

43C Offence of using an incorrectly registered vehicle
(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, on a public road or in a public place, he uses a vehicle to which subsection (2) applies and in respect of which—
(a)the name and address of the keeper are not recorded in the register, or
(b)any of the particulars recorded in the register are incorrect.

(3)A person who—
(a)is required by [F2virtue of] this Act to furnish particulars relating to, or to the keeper of, a vehicle, and
(b)furnishes particulars which to his knowledge are either false or in any material respect misleading,
is guilty of an offence.

Does that cover it

im-lost

Most insures require you to be the registered keeper...

If Mr A gets a ticket and it remains unpaid eventually go to court extra fines usissued, when these remain unpaid the car will be lifted and either sold or crushed.

If you should get caught driving, you wont have no insurance, the car won't be registered to you, so where do you think that's going to end up?

also, if the !!!! hits the fan, do you really want to be the person found out to have made up a 'fake' person at your address.

forgotmyname

Insuring a car thats not owned or registered to you could cost you more.

And when you do get stopped how will they contact the owner to prove you have not stolen it?

Get a couple of tickets and it wont be long before the cars flagged up as suspicious.

eddddy

So you register it in the name of Mr !!!! (who doesn't exist) in order to evade speeding fines and points etc...

That sounds like conspiracy to pervert the course of justice (and a potential jail sentence).

In terms of getting caught... I guess that happens when the police follow up an unpaid speeding ticket, and find that the registered keeper doesn't exist.

I think the police would investigate fairly vigourously, as they regard it as a serious offence. Chris Huhn got 8 months prison, just for evading speeding points. What you're suggesting sounds far more serious.

GAZ237

Oh dear. I don't think the OP has thought this through at all.

First off the registered keeper makes no odds, its who was the keeper of the vehicle at the time. You would also have issues when it came to try and tax the car without the renewal paperwork.
Plus you would have to insure the car, which the police have instant access to to find out who,s allowed to drive it along with there address.
Lastly as soon as an owner could not be traced a marker would be placed on the car and the first police car you drive past with ANPR would pull you over.

I cannot believe you even posted this question.