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Labours New Housebuilding Project Announced - Homes Not Housing Benefit

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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Growth is projected to be 0.6% for Q2. Bet you're gutted, although you'll probably just claim it would have been 6.0% if labour's house building suggestion (note that this is not actually a labour policy, just some rhetoric) was taken up.

    P.S. swinney is hardly a useful source - he just wants more cash from the treasury so the SNP can bribe voters a bit more...

    It's starting to look like supply side reforms plus a shrinking of the state a little is starting to show positive results.

    Great news.
  • gazter
    gazter Posts: 931 Forumite
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    At last, Labour's big new housebuilding project is revealed, along with plans to tackle racketeering landlords, move housing benefit spending to home building and give tenants support and power to protect themselves from leeching landlords! In Guardian today ... some light at the end of this dreary old dragging recession (which even the IMF now says is handicapped by Osbornes miserable economic plan!) Go for Growth they said , but he hasn't. Housebuilding will get Britain moving again and help to stop construction skills from rotting into oblivion.

    You wouldnt have thought we came out of a thirteen year labour government. Maybe it didnt happen. Oh, and the IMF didnt say that about osbornes plan.
  • gazter
    gazter Posts: 931 Forumite
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    Same thing.

    Same goes for the privatisation deliberately sold on the cheap to encourage Joe Public to buy em up.

    Selling off the family silver. Assets they had already paid for once.

    They werent assets when the government ran them. They only became assets once they were sold.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Massive public housing schemes were a huge success in the post-war crisis years, and we could now have a chance to re-generate a similar feeling of optimism.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    Massive public housing schemes were a huge success in the post-war crisis years, and we could now have a chance to re-generate a similar feeling of optimism.

    TruckerT

    The tower blocks were, for the most part, unmitigated disasters.

    The houses, for the most part, weren't repaired properly and were rotting away by the time they were sold.

    The tower blocks were so badly built that it's still very hard or impossible to get a mortgage.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    The tower blocks were, for the most part, unmitigated disasters.

    The houses, for the most part, weren't repaired properly and were rotting away by the time they were sold.

    The tower blocks were so badly built that it's still very hard or impossible to get a mortgage.

    I actually find rants like yours funny as not all council housing was/is exactly the same.

    In the area I grew up in the council houses were mostly small Edwardian cottages and the majority of the flats were built before the second world war. As a child I knew these were council housing simply because of the snobbery of the adults around me.

    It's been amusing to watch people's faces when I've told people who have brought one of the houses that it's an ex-council house as they are shocked that all council housing isn't a 60s abomination.

    Lots of councils with these older properties do everything to get someone to buy them as they are often in conservation areas and/or are listed.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    The tower blocks were, for the most part, unmitigated disasters.

    The houses, for the most part, weren't repaired properly and were rotting away by the time they were sold.

    The tower blocks were so badly built that it's still very hard or impossible to get a mortgage.

    The principle was good though and did what it was required to do, i.e provide housing.

    Certainly, many now SEEK to buy 1960's council stock (sure, not the high rise concrete flats) due to how well they are built and the space they provide.

    We can learn from mistakes....though I don't particularly think todays rabbit hutches are much to celebrate either.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    olly300 wrote: »
    I actually find rants like yours funny as not all council housing was/is exactly the same.

    In the area I grew up in the council houses were mostly small Edwardian cottages and the majority of the flats were built before the second world war. As a child I knew these were council housing simply because of the snobbery of the adults around me.

    It's been amusing to watch people's faces when I've told people who have brought one of the houses that it's an ex-council house as they are shocked that all council housing isn't a 60s abomination.

    Lots of councils with these older properties do everything to get someone to buy them as they are often in conservation areas and/or are listed.

    Bit harsh to call it a rant old thing!

    My Uncle lived in a council house for decades. It was a bit of a dump until he bought it under Right to Buy and them slowly turned it into a suburban palace.

    A staple of consumer shows in the early 1980s was people living in council housing that was falling apart because the council wasn't repairing it. It seems that you got lucky in the 'Postcode Lottery' of council housing. Many others didn't.

    People love a good rant about BTL and how t'were better in the old days. The fact is that the AST has improved private rented housing no end.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

    When the OP wrote that "Labour's big new housebuilding project is revealed" what he really meant to write was "Labour big new project to axe rich older people's fuel payments is revealed". It's an easy mistake to make.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22748914
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    I'd much prefer the opportunity to grow up in a council house and o all of that than look at a car park from a "balcony" that you can#t even fit a plant pot on.

    Many of these houses are still around.
    Why don't you look to buy one?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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