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It's a stark choice indeed. Go clubbing or buy a house.
Those youngsters sacrificing the chance of home ownership just to keep the economy going.
LOL
LOL all you like in your attempt to put me down.
Just proves you are missing the point. Others got it. You are attempting (again) to ignore the point and make silly little comparisons to try and make others look silly.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Just proves you are missing the point. Others got it. You are attempting (again) to ignore the point and make silly little comparisons to try and make others look silly.
Times are tough. I left school in 1983 - it was just as tough.
No-one from my class was worrying about spending or saving - we couldn't afford either. Little did I know I was leaving school in the very year that turned out, according to Percy, to be the worst year to be born EVER.
If you ever develop a sense of self-awareness you'll look back (with some embarrassment) at just how petulant and self-indulgent you were.0 -
#Times are tough. I left school in 1983 - it was just as tough.
No-one from my class was worrying about spending or saving - we couldn't afford either. Little did I know I was leaving school in the very year that turned out, according to Percy, to be the worst year to be born EVER.
If you ever develop a sense of self-awareness you'll look back (with some embarrassment) at just how petulant and self-indulgent you were.
That's nice, but what on earth does it have to do with anything I said?0 -
I prioritise paying for heat and light above sending my kids to Brownies £40 per term plus uniform plus sundries and football £10 per session.
I also don't spend any money on drugs, ciggies or alcohol (although not only because I can't afford it).
You would have thought if an area was really penniless it would not be able to support the incomes of the loan sharks and baliffs, it is an intersting world we live in.
Well, I'm with you on prioritising heat and light over kids' activities. However, my DD goes to a Brownie pack in a deprived area of town. It's nowhere near as expensive as you've mentioned. They pay £1 a week (bring the cash with you, and if you forget, never mind, try to remember £2 next week) and the uniform's optional - if you can't afford it, just come in your school uniform or home clothes. If this woman's daughter's Brownie pack is similar, I don't think £1 a week to get the kid out doing something fun with other little girls is really terribly extravagant.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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But in Afghanistan or the Chinese outback, your post would make absolutely no sense at all.
TruckerT
Not really sure what Afghanistan, China or any other third world area has to do with our continued decline.
I know they have things a lot worse but it doesn't mean we need to join them.
We are supposed to be up there in the G7+ ."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Not really sure what Afghanistan, China or any other third world area has to do with our continued decline.
I know they have things a lot worse but it doesn't mean we need to join them.
We are supposed to be up there in the G7+ .
I agree, but I also recognise the possibility that things might change!
The decline in European economies seems to be roughly in step with the growth in other parts of the world.
TruckerTAccording to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.0 -
I agree, but I also recognise the possibility that things might change!
The decline in European economies seems to be roughly in step with the growth in other parts of the world.
TruckerT
The game is trying to keep the nose up and keep a shallow glide path, hopefully they will climb up faster than we crash. At which point we shall still be substantially poorer."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »#
That's nice, but what on earth does it have to do with anything I said?
People don't go clubbing or buy Facebook credits because they're 'supposed to' - they want to because they get pleasure from these activities today.
People don't save because they're 'supposed to' - they do it because they want to defer spending until a later date.
The economy isn't a collection of people hand-wringing about what they're supposed to do i.e. save or consume (it's possible to do both BTW).
Everyday through their lives people make lots of small choices and each one has an outcome. The lady with a £2500 outstanding utility bill didn't arrive in that position overnight - lots of small choices led her to that destination mixed in with some luck/ bad luck.Graham_Devon wrote: »We want our young to consume. We want our young to save to buy a house. Either way they are wrong, and either way, we want them to do it to save OUR house prices and OUR economy.
Indulgent self pity.0
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