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TruckerT

wotsthat wrote: »

No it's not. I live not far away from this estate - it's a world away from where you think we're headed.

The kids on the tip scavenging have got no money.

The people on the Meadows estate struggle with priorities and money management.

'Rich' kids in the UK say that they cannot get onto the property ladder, so they live rent-free with their parents.

They spend their money going clubbing.

TruckerT

michaels

MacMickster wrote: »

Gross Pay roughly £27.5K

Take home around £1750 per month plus £140 per month tax credits and £134 child benefit 4 weekly.

So either her rent and bills are about 1750 pcm (1400 rent, 200 utilities including arrears, 125 council tax...or some other combination including expensive phone and TV package, car loan and mobile contract) or there is an innacuracy in the article. £27.5k for a part time administrator is not to shabby either and above the median full time income I believe?

Plus her after tax/benefits annual household of 24k therefore compares very favourably with the national average of 16k. The BBC has an agtenda and their journalists do not understand the sort of salary levels ordinary people not in the 'metropolitan elite' nromally live on hence they are unable to spot who is living in povery and who is just not as loaded as they are.

Graham_Devon

TruckerT wrote: »

'Rich' kids in the UK say that they cannot get onto the property ladder, so they live rent-free with their parents.

They spend their money going clubbing.

TruckerT

We are coming to a crossroads in this country. We are reliant on consumption to keep the system going.

It's quite amusing to read some of the posts on this forum. Were supposed to save and not consume, but at the same time we are supposed to consume to keep jobs and growth going. It seems some want to see people doing both at the same time, which is a double bonus as they can be attacked from both angles (the parasite saver and the wreckless spender depending on the argument to be had).

Were nearly (IMO) hitting the crossroads where one will win out over the other.

Certainly you cannot have it both ways. That young person going clubbing is putting money into the economy and business. If they sit at home and save, and more and more do this, thats a few more jobs in the service industry gone.

We want our young to consume. We want our young to save to buy a house. Either way they are wrong, and either way, we want them to do it to save OUR house prices and OUR economy.

TruckerT

Graham_Devon wrote: »

We are coming to a crossroads in this country. We are reliant on consumption to keep the system going.

It's quite amusing to read some of the posts on this forum. Were supposed to save and not consume, but at the same time we are supposed to consume to keep jobs and growth going. It seems some want to see people doing both at the same time, which is a double bonus as they can be attacked from both angles (the parasite saver and the wreckless spender depending on the argument to be had).

Were nearly (IMO) hitting the crossroads where one will win out over the other.

Certainly you cannot have it both ways. That young person going clubbing is putting money into the economy and business. If they sit at home and save, and more and more do this, thats a few more jobs in the service industry gone.

We want our young to consume. We want our young to save to buy a house. Either way they are wrong, and either way, we want them to do it to save OUR house prices and OUR economy.

You are probably predicting the end of capitalism as we know it (which is something I have been doing for some considerable time...)

TruckerT

Carl31

I love when you read this things about poor people and one of the yardsticks used to point out how poor they are is the fact they havent been on holiday for x years

Its not how theyre dying of malnutrition, its the fact they cant sun it up on the costs brava, thats how poor they are

TruckerT

Carl31 wrote: »

I love when you read this things about poor people and one of the yardsticks used to point out how poor they are is the fact they havent been on holiday for x years

Its not how theyre dying of malnutrition, its the fact they cant sun it up on the costs brava, thats how poor they are

Where are YOU going on holiday this year?

TruckerT

somethingcorporate

At least we have a welfare system that stops them from actually starving.

TruckerT

somethingcorporate wrote: »

At least we have a welfare system that stops them from actually starving.

Your use of the word 'them' is significant - have you calculated how much richer you would be if it wasn't for the welfare system?

TruckerT

somethingcorporate

Significantly better off, given we contribute £30k+ of income tax alone.

However, I do not (really) begrudge a penny of it given I have had some amazing care from the NHS, police etc.

My use of the word "them" was referring to the individuals mentioned in the Meadows estate, I read this thread very shortly after reading the very same article on the BBC website.

TruckerT

somethingcorporate wrote: »

Significantly better off, given we contribute £30k+ of income tax alone.

However, I do not (really) begrudge a penny of it given I have had some amazing care from the NHS, police etc.

My use of the word "them" was referring to the individuals mentioned in the Meadows estate, I read this thread very shortly after reading the very same article on the BBC website.

If it wasn't for the UK welfare system, the rich might all have to sleep behind bars, as per South Africa, Brazil etc etc

TruckerT