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  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    edited 31 May 2013 at 9:13PM
    They might be hungry but it's OK because house prices are still high.

    And they're not starving. So that's OK.

    What a sick society.
  • Carl31
    Carl31 Posts: 2,616 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    TruckerT wrote: »
    Where are YOU going on holiday this year?

    TruckerT

    Im not. Not been on holiday properly since 2006

    ...where were those food banks again?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    We are coming to a crossroads in this country. We are reliant on consumption to keep the system going.

    It's quite amusing to read some of the posts on this forum. Were supposed to save and not consume, but at the same time we are supposed to consume to keep jobs and growth going. It seems some want to see people doing both at the same time, which is a double bonus as they can be attacked from both angles (the parasite saver and the wreckless spender depending on the argument to be had).

    Were nearly (IMO) hitting the crossroads where one will win out over the other.

    Certainly you cannot have it both ways. That young person going clubbing is putting money into the economy and business. If they sit at home and save, and more and more do this, thats a few more jobs in the service industry gone.

    We want our young to consume. We want our young to save to buy a house. Either way they are wrong, and either way, we want them to do it to save OUR house prices and OUR economy.

    And pay off their student loans and save for their pension.

    I am not so sure they want the youngsters to consume and spend all their money I think they really want to screw the ones that have been provident.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 31 May 2013 at 9:19PM
    I am nots so sure it is whether they are in absolute or relative poverty more the trend that is building.

    Yes there are many much more needy people around the world, are they our new benchmark?

    The first acceptance will need to come from our politicians, accepting that they don't have a scooby.

    Yes we have along way to go I am not so sure peeps will accept that lying down.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Certainly you cannot have it both ways. That young person going clubbing is putting money into the economy and business. If they sit at home and save, and more and more do this, thats a few more jobs in the service industry gone.

    We want our young to consume. We want our young to save to buy a house. Either way they are wrong, and either way, we want them to do it to save OUR house prices and OUR economy.

    It's a stark choice indeed. Go clubbing or buy a house.

    Those youngsters sacrificing the chance of home ownership just to keep the economy going.

    LOL
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Carl31 wrote: »
    Im not. Not been on holiday properly since 2006

    ...where were those food banks again?

    What would you describe as a 'proper' holiday'?

    In Bangladesh, it might just be an occasional day off work...

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    It's a stark choice indeed. Go clubbing or buy a house.

    Those youngsters sacrificing the chance of home ownership just to keep the economy going.

    LOL

    How long can it continue?

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    I am not so sure they want the youngsters to consume and spend all their money I think they really want to screw the ones that have been provident.

    I don't think 'they' care very much about where 'their' money comes from, just so long as it keeps on coming.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    TruckerT wrote: »
    How long can it continue?

    TruckerT

    Recessions come and go - you know that - I believe this is a long way from being your first.

    Did you have to make tough choices between clubbing and other essentials like buying Facebook credits?
  • OffGridLiving
    OffGridLiving Posts: 585 Forumite
    We are coming to a crossroads in this country. We are reliant on consumption to keep the system going.

    It's quite amusing to read some of the posts on this forum. Were supposed to save and not consume, but at the same time we are supposed to consume to keep jobs and growth going. It seems some want to see people doing both at the same time, which is a double bonus as they can be attacked from both angles (the parasite saver and the wreckless spender depending on the argument to be had).

    Were nearly (IMO) hitting the crossroads where one will win out over the other.

    Certainly you cannot have it both ways. That young person going clubbing is putting money into the economy and business. If they sit at home and save, and more and more do this, thats a few more jobs in the service industry gone.

    We want our young to consume. We want our young to save to buy a house. Either way they are wrong, and either way, we want them to do it to save OUR house prices and OUR economy.

    Totally agree, it's time for our society to decide what it really needs, not what it wants.

    Most of the junk that people buy is enriching other countries and a few distributors such as Amazon where we don't even receive the tax from their UK sales. We don't need to buy plasma TVs to keep our economy going, we need a new plan. Consumerism has failed, we need something else.

    In the words of Timothy Leery, 'turn on, tune in and drop out'. Disassociate yourself from this sort of shallow existence and find a better way, though not the use of psychedelics as Mr Leery advised. :)
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