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Holyrood propaganda
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Spin?! Look what you've done to 1974a to hide the fact that Ted Heath would have won! Talk about pot kettle black.1974
Labour majority: -33
Without Scottish MPs: -50
NO CHANGE"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
In fact very small majorities aren't workable against a united Opposition. Four Labour governments (50, 64, 74a, 74b) governed with the support of Liberals, SNP and other assorted oddballs on the Opposition benches, quite a few of them Scottish. Remember the Lib-Lab pacts? Take away Scotland and you have to doubt whether those governments would have been viable.
Of course it's all a bit what-if because if 50, 64 and 74a had gone the other way, 51, 66 and 74b might not have happened."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
It's a pantomime horse for everybody. Every region is outvoted by the rest of the UK. Nobody gets what they want all the time.They don't want the pantomime horse of a combined parliament to be running both countries using a government usually only the bigger country elected.
It's like a family planning their holidays. Everybody wants to go somewhere different, but do they want to go on separate holidays? Or do they decide it's better on the whole to compromise and stick together?"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Spin?! Look what you've done to 1974a to hide the fact that Ted Heath would have won! Talk about pot kettle black.
Hey, so I add some figures that weren't relevant, simple mistake, I was also trying to juggle lunch and ignore the phone
The point I was making - which I'm sure you knew - was that the claim that Labour wouldn't have won elections without Scottish seats is false.
Feel free to show some numbers that prove the claim0 -
Every region is outvoted by the rest of the UK. Nobody gets what they want all the time.
Exactly.
We've only had labour governments because of Scotish votes.
We've only had conservative governments because of home counties votes.
For a long time in the 19th century we only had Liberal governments because of Irish votes.
We've only had conservative governments because of women's votes.
We only ever have any particular government because of all the people who voted for it. If you exclude them, somebody else would have got in. This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Yes, they both say independence when they mean secession. Independence is for dependent territories ruled by foreign powers.
Scotland is part of Great Britain, and the UK is a member state of the EU, so in neither case is the word independence appropriate. Independence is what George Washington fought for - but the Colonies had no MPs at Westminster.
But UKIP and the SNP are both engaged in the same misrepresentation, as part of their appeal to the xenophobic vote.
An interesting point you've raised0 -
lets see how scotland do without the Barnett Formula bribes by paying more per capita out of english paid taxes than english citizens get. without ENGLISH taxpayers cash, Jockland would be even more third world.
Trainspotting anyone?0 -
If we're going to be further away from you - that's got my vote. I like how you treat the Welsh as an irrelevance too.
Trainspotting was 'entertainment' and meant to shock. Up here, we look at Westminster... It has exactly the same effect.0
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