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Mandatory proof regarding Universal Jobmatch

Hi all,

As you know, using Universal Jobmatch by jobseekers is compulsory since March 2013.

I have decide to not give access of my Universal Jobmatch account to JobCentre and also print out my 'Application History' for them when they give me appointment.

On last friday I have shown to my advisor the 30 jobs records I have applied to on UJ, however now for next tuesday this advisor is requesting for next tuesday a 'screen print' of my 'Activity History' : as a result I have send them an email requesting an explanation of the request since my 'Activity history' will be a duplicate of my 'Application history'.

In addition, UJ is full of bug and I really don't want to waste my time to put some datas that at the end will not be recorded on my account.

Can I legitimately refuse to provide this 'Activity history' and only provide my 'Application history' instead? If not, could I write this 'Activity history' on a paper instead of in UJ (easier since I may have equally 30)?
A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    No it is NOT mandatory

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  • Dogger69
    Dogger69 Posts: 1,183 Forumite
    In order to qualify for continued JSA payments, you must comply with all reasonable directions given by your advisor. I see nothing unreasonable about this request. If they have asked for a screen print, then a hand written log will not be sufficient.
  • SaveMeDo
    SaveMeDo Posts: 279 Forumite
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    You don't need to supply anything but a written record of your jobsearch, and that must comply with the your Jobseekers agreement.

    I take a memory stick with screen shots on it, but it is not really necessary.

    Your "Adviser" is trying it on, and it is up to you to resist, or fold.
  • SaveMeDo
    SaveMeDo Posts: 279 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    BTW

    When I say screenshots, I mean a screenshot of my "sent" folder in my yahoo email account.

    If you supply a written record of your jobsearch (esp with 30 applications) they won't even try to sanction you, how could they?

    It is up to them to then prove you haven't complied with the Jobseeker agreement.
  • SaveMeDo
    SaveMeDo Posts: 279 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    In order to qualify for continued JSA payments, you must comply with all reasonable directions given by your advisor. I see nothing unreasonable about this request. If they have asked for a screen print, then a hand written log will not be sufficient.

    Wrong.

    Is there any mention of screen shots in the Jobseeker agreement?

    If there is, then the JSAg is invalid, the "Adviser" who wrote that has overstepped there authority.
  • MoonDragon
    MoonDragon Posts: 203 Forumite
    edited 6 May 2013 at 9:37AM
    SaveMeDo wrote: »
    If there is, then the JSAg is invalid, the "Adviser" who wrote that has overstepped there authority.

    I believe too. In fact I believe that he is just trying to make me loose time and energy. Previously he was requesting to see me each week while he well know that I have to walk for an hour from my home to JobCentre (and a further for the return).

    I have asked for a training that may cost around £2000 (or less, in fact I do not know yet...) and the same advisor said no without even seeing my business case.
    A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
  • SaveMeDo
    SaveMeDo Posts: 279 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    The fact is that EVERYONE is getting stick from the DWP, and there is a determined effort to try and throw people of benefits.

    Be careful what you say and do when you converse with the drones at the Jobcentre, they are looking to sign us off at any opportunity, learn the rules and don't say anything that will get you into trouble.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/mar/21/jobcentre-set-targets-benefit-sanctions
  • Dogger69
    Dogger69 Posts: 1,183 Forumite
    SaveMeDo wrote: »
    Wrong.

    Is there any mention of screen shots in the Jobseeker agreement?

    If there is, then the JSAg is invalid, the "Adviser" who wrote that has overstepped there authority.

    Not everything has to be written in the JSAg in order for it to be valid. Any reasonable instruction by the adviser must be adhered to. This instruction would only be unreasonable if the OP did not have access to IT facilities, which is clearly not the case here.

    Your advice is liable to get the OP sanctioned, and given their ongoing problems with the JCP, that is likely to be for a long time.
  • Dogger69
    Dogger69 Posts: 1,183 Forumite
    MoonDragon wrote: »
    I believe too. In fact I believe that he is just trying to make me loose time and energy. Previously he was requesting to see me each week while he well know that I have to walk for an hour from my home to JobCentre (and a further for the return).

    I have asked for a training that may cost around £2000 (or less, in fact I do not know yet...) and the same advisor said no without even seeing my business case.

    The chances of getting £2000 for a training course are minimal, I would say zero - they simply do not have the funds available anymore.
  • MoonDragon
    MoonDragon Posts: 203 Forumite
    edited 6 May 2013 at 9:10PM
    Dogger69 wrote: »
    The chances of getting £2000 for a training course are minimal, I would say zero - they simply do not have the funds available anymore.

    In fact that was for training company who guarantee to find you a job after the training.
    But according to the present environment and JSA culture that does not surprise me even for £200.
    A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
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