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Ze, 'Ow you say, Deflation Watch. Eurozone edition
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If people want to screw their lives up, why should I care?
I think that the more unacceptable behaviour is accepted and justified, the more prevalent it gets. Just my opinion though.
Depends if you condone the pusher too."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
They are just a retailer, bit like Tesco selling booze. Selling to children in either case I would not condone.grizzly1911 wrote: »Depends if you condone the pusher too.0 -
If people want to screw their lives up, why should I care?
Compassion? Or, closer to home, because people screwing their lives up may well have a negative impact on your life too?Everyone has free will. Some just like to make excuses. No sympathy as all.
Is this the follow-up title to the international bestseller 'just eat less and exercise more fatty'?
I personally would like to see people flogged for chucking McDonalds wrappers out of cars - they shouldn't do it and they are entirely to blame.
Do McDonalds have a responsibility? You may well say no - what would you think if they removed all their bins from car parks and within walking distance of restaurants? They may as well save the money - what's it got to do with them once the money has been handed over?0 -
Individuals and states should take responsibility for their own actions. .
What, like lending money to a country which has no ability to pay it back, so that you can boost your GDP for a decade and dig yourself out of the reunification hole?
I agree entirely.
Why do you only think irresponsible borrowers should suffer?
Surely irresponsible lenders should suffer equally?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Compassion? Or, closer to home, because people screwing their lives up may well have a negative impact on your life too?
Is this the follow-up title to the international bestseller 'just eat less and exercise more fatty'?
I personally would like to see people flogged for chucking McDonalds wrappers out of cars - they shouldn't do it and they are entirely to blame.
Do McDonalds have a responsibility? You may well say no - what would you think if they removed all their bins from car parks and within walking distance of restaurants? They may as well save the money - what's it got to do with them once the money has been handed over?
1. If you eat less calories than you burn, you will lose weight 100% guaranteed. Just people make excuses to themselves.
2. Yes I think we should punish people for littering, but making a restaurant install bins as part of planning consent costs nothing and cannot do any harm.
Again, give people excuses to stay fat, drink too much, buy stuff they cannot pay for, etc and they will take advantage of them.0 -
I think the fat people/junkie analogy is being stretched too far here.
Let's not forget that it wasn't 'Greece' that imported BMWs and Kinder eggs, it was individual Greeks. The macro (economy wide) level is just a summing up of all the micros (individuals and companies).
That the debts have been aggregated up to a macro level isn't the fault of the individuals so the whole moral argument is a nonsense. The Greeks should tell the Germans to stick their debt where the sun don't shine.
German consumers couldn't afford to buy what German producers were making. Rather than cut sales they sold abroad. If I know and the bloke that wrote my economics 101 text book knows and all the people that read that book know that a deficit has to be financed by the surplus country they !!!!!! didn't the Chancellery know that?0 -
So was it individuals or government that took on unsustainable amounts of debt in Greece?I think the fat people/junkie analogy is being stretched too far here.
Let's not forget that it wasn't 'Greece' that imported BMWs and Kinder eggs, it was individual Greeks. The macro (economy wide) level is just a summing up of all the micros (individuals and companies).
That the debts have been aggregated up to a macro level isn't the fault of the individuals so the whole moral argument is a nonsense. The Greeks should tell the Germans to stick their debt where the sun don't shine.
German consumers couldn't afford to buy what German producers were making. Rather than cut sales they sold abroad. If I know and the bloke that wrote my economics 101 text book knows and all the people that read that book know that a deficit has to be financed by the surplus country they !!!!!! didn't the Chancellery know that?
Surely if an individual is paying for his BMW and all did the same, there would be no problem.0 -
1. If you eat less calories than you burn, you will lose weight 100% guaranteed. Just people make excuses to themselves.
2. Yes I think we should punish people for littering, but making a restaurant install bins as part of planning consent costs nothing and cannot do any harm.
Again, give people excuses to stay fat, drink too much, buy stuff they cannot pay for, etc and they will take advantage of them.
Just because people like to find blame and excuses for their failings and lack of discipline doesn't mean that others don't have certain responsibilities.0 -
Just because people like to find blame and excuses for their failings and lack of discipline doesn't mean that others don't have certain responsibilities.
First responsibility has to be with the individual though. Cannot spend your whole life blaming others whilst failing to address the issues.0 -
So was it individuals or government that took on unsustainable amounts of debt in Greece?.
So was it individuals or government in Germany that loaned unsustainable amounts of debt to Greece?
Why do you think lenders have no obligation to ensure their money can be paid back?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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