This so called Bedroom Tax

kafkathecat

sammyjammy wrote: »

Ever so slightly overdramatic :think:

How so? Is any of it not true? If you read this thread it is all why should they have this that or the other take it away from them. No one ever says why don't other people fight for the same rights. I grew up in a civilised country where people were not stigmatised for being poor. I don't recognise this country any more.

ILW

kafkathecat wrote: »

How so? Is any of it not true? If you read this thread it is all why should they have this that or the other take it away from them. No one ever says why don't other people fight for the same rights. I grew up in a civilised country where people were not stigmatised for being poor. I don't recognise this country any more.

Everyone in this country has a right to as big a house as they want, as long as they earn the money to afford it.

clemmatis

kafkathecat wrote: »

How so? Is any of it not true? If you read this thread it is all why should they have this that or the other take it away from them. No one ever says why don't other people fight for the same rights. I grew up in a civilised country where people were not stigmatised for being poor. I don't recognise this country any more.

Yes. It was civilised then.

nannytone_2

DCodd wrote: »

They do in sheltered accommodation, well that is my Mother had a fridge freezer and built in oven in hers.

I know that new builds are subject to ever more stringent efficiency regs for both private and social landlords, maybe they would provide a flooring of some kind i.e. underlayed laminate or carpet to meet potential future EPC requirements? just a thought.

i live in a new build. i have triple glazing, solar panels amd am insulated to the highest residentail standards.
but it was a bare shell

Dunroamin

Claire212 wrote: »

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This is why people are so against this bedroom tax. 25 years of decoration and care going into a house. Furious at the thought of having to pay more for it, just because they have an extra room. And I understand that but many will put up with this because of the promise of a secure tenancy.

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Pay more for it as opposed to paying nothing you mean.

(Why am I arguing with the WUM?)

DCodd

nannytone wrote: »

i live in a new build. i have triple glazing, solar panels amd am insulated to the highest residentail standards.
but it was a bare shell

That doesn't mean that other authorities just provide a bare shell, it equally doesn't mean that they don't, I was just saying that it is a possibility.

To be fair, if they aren't providing these things at build then both the Social Landlord and the tenant could be missing out. Bulk buying (granted with limited choice) at second fix stage is far more cost effective.

nannytone_2

the one thying that i did have, that ive never had before was light bulbs!
i cant see HA's providing white good as if they did, these items would be 'rented', they would belong to the HA and not the tenant,
so if they broke, surely they would be obliged to repair/replace them? the same would stand for carpets

DCodd

nannytone wrote: »

the one thying that i did have, that ive never had before was light bulbs!
i cant see HA's providing white good as if they did, these items would be 'rented', they would belong to the HA and not the tenant,
so if they broke, surely they would be obliged to repair/replace them? the same would stand for carpets

Depends on the tennancy agreement I suppose.

365days

kafkathecat wrote: »

How so? Is any of it not true? If you read this thread it is all why should they have this that or the other take it away from them. No one ever says why don't other people fight for the same rights. I grew up in a civilised country where people were not stigmatised for being poor. I don't recognise this country any more.

I'm not too sure of the rights you are talking about. Do you mean the right to stay within your 'community'.

Many, many people in my generation have had to move away from their families because they COULD NOT AFFORD to live where they grew up. There is always a choice. I could of chosen to stay where I was in inferior accomodation or move to a cheaper area and have a nicer home.

I don't think anyone is being stigmatised for being poor. I suspect many people living in council houses are far more wealthy than I. People are at long last being told that the government and tax-payer will only pay for the houses that they need not the houses that they want.

If people want a larger house than they need they will have to pay for it. What really is the problem with that ?

nannytone_2

when you sign a tenancy, you rent the property and the fixtures and fittings.
if my shower breaks... i phone the HA and they fix it. if i have a broken window, i call and they fix it. if my heating breaks, i call and they fix it.