This so called Bedroom Tax

lighting_up_the_chalice

clemmatis wrote: »

As Housing Benefit is awarded by age -- as a single person under 35 without dependent children is entitled only to the rate for a single room with shared facilities -- I'd say we have got away from it.

LHA (for private rents) is reduced to the "shared room rate" for singles under 35. The bedroom tax does not apply to private rents paid for by LHA.

HB (for Social Housing) was, until the bedroom tax, paid in full regardless of age, household or property size. Until the bedroom tax was introduced, a single 18 year old, living alone, would have been entitled to HB paying all the rent for a 6 bedroom social housing unit.

nannytone_2

it isnt a desireable village! thats why social housing is so easy to come by... that and the affordability of private lets.
just out of interest, i have just looked up the LHA rates. the 1 bed has been lowered to £69. the 2 bed is £91n and the 3 ved is £103.

there are countless 2 bed private lets for £350 pc, amd ,y SH rent is £106... so obviously people prefer the new build private lets with gardens to the mainly 1950's built social housing.

my LA covers a vast rural area. i want born here, i moved here 9 years ago. i was already dependant on others to help me get around outside. it wasnt an option to move to a place that i had no knowledge of whatsoever, without support.
if you were dropped into a strange place, blindfolded. you too would find it almost impossible to sope.

im not taking your comments personally, and im only using myself as an example as it is the only situation that i know enough about to give accurate details.


i taked to the council housing officer and she said ut is council policy to only give permission for 2 and 3 bed properties as they offered the 'most flexibility'. so things arent going to change.

i knew about the proposed changes, but as i was between a rock and a hard place, had very few options available to me.

the council are still allocaTIG HOUSES TO UNDER OCCUPIERS. AN ACCQUAINTANCE WITH A 3 TEAR OLD SON HAS JUST PARTED FROM HER HUSVAND AND HAS BEEN GIVEN A 3 BED HOUSE... NO MENTION OF THE REDUCTION IN HOUSING BENEFIT

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

AN ACCQUAINTANCE WITH A 3 TEAR OLD SON HAS JUST PARTED FROM HER HUSVAND AND HAS BEEN GIVEN A 3 BED HOUSE... NO MENTION OF THE REDUCTION IN HOUSING BENEFIT

She was OFFERED a 3 bed house and CHOSE to accept it.

I'm pretty sure the Council didn't tell her Christmas Day is on December 25th this year either.... But THAT won't come as any great shock to her!!!

Anyone who isn't aware of the bedroom tax must be in a coma!

nannytone_2

yes, but as she had never been a benefit claimant, she was totally unaware that she would lose housing benefit. and the council never botheres to tell hert

where i come from in london, it has always been policy to only allocate properties with the correct number of bedrooms

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

yes, but as she had never been a benefit claimant, she was totally unaware that she would lose housing benefit. and the council never botheres to tell hert

where i come from in london, it has always been policy to only allocate properties with the correct number of bedrooms

Oh, come on! Has anyone told her about the Titanic?

The bedroom tax has been all over the news for well over a year. Anyone still not aware of it shouldn't really be assumed to have the mental capacity to live independantly!

nannytone_2

you would be suprised how many non benefit claimants are completely oblivious to it. i know i was.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

you would be suprised how many non benefit claimants are completely oblivious to it. i know i was.

When you took your tenancy, I could believe that. But now??

Either way, paying rent is the responsibility of the tenant, not the landlord.

I would have thought that someone who hasn't previously claimed benefits would have been more likely to do their research thoroughly, knowing so little about the subject as they do.

nannytone_2

people in general dont seem to be interested unless they are directly affected.
its the same with the benefit cap. a lot of people seem to thin that is 26k cash in their hand. they dont realise that it has to cover housing and council tax too. i am amazed by the ignorance of people ablout how badly some people are being hit,

how many times have you seen references on here to the 'massive ammounts of free money' that ALL disabled people receive?
they seem so coberned about their own positions ( rightly so) that they want someone to point the finger at, to blame for the way the country is. and in general it seems to be beiefit claimants that are the object of their wrath.... regardless of why they need to claim benefit

clemmatis

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

LHA (for private rents) is reduced to the "shared room rate" for singles under 35. The bedroom tax does not apply to private rents paid for by LHA.

HB (for Social Housing) was, until the bedroom tax, paid in full regardless of age, household or property size. Until the bedroom tax was introduced, a single 18 year old, living alone, would have been entitled to HB paying all the rent for a 6 bedroom social housing unit.

I know the LHA restrictions are for private rents (and that the bedroom tax does not apply). The official advice sites, though, do not say that. I tried to find out how likely it.was that a young single person with no dependent children would be given social housing of any kind. I found statement after statement -- from official sources -- that they were the least likely to be given it.

I finally found some more precise information and data (from Jamuary 2012).

1. The government intends removing HB entitlement from those aged 16-24

2. 7% of social housing tenants are aged 16-24

3. Nearly 40% of the 7% receive no HB

4. Of the remainder, 19% are economically active.

5. The majority of the 7% are not single.

Have you any data?

nannytone_2

i would assume that the majority at the lower end of the age range are either care leavers or estranged from parents or ar single parents.
i personally dont have an issue with removing HB entotlement to the age group 16-24,except under exceptional circumstances ( care leavers/estrangement)
i am 50, so not ancient, but even when i was that age. most adult children stayed at home with parents until they married or earnt enough to rent/buy independantly