Wife refused HB because she is not working and not on JSA

1878

thorsoak:

I am sorry to say your assumptions are wrong. My education is paid for by my home country and myself.

In fact, once I am graduated I will probably pay 100 times more in taxes than you have done your whole life because I will get a job with a high income. Now I could move to an Asian country and pay 0% in tax but I quite like it here so I want to stay.

I am at a point in life where I need a little help from the public but I will contribute back like I mentioned above.

Also, UK is a member of the European union which means for example that you can move to my home country and claim benefits, so this is not a one street lane.

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Dogger69

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

you have a right to CLAIM (being the operative wording here) but criteria has to be met wich you seem not to meet, hence why you are not entitled to the benefit when your CLAIM FORM has been processed.

in order to be ENTITELED there are set criteria to every CLAIMANT applying.

in reciept of child benefit.
in reciept of JSA, even if it were 1p entitelment that would satify this criteria.
the benefit is MEANS TESTED, wich means any houshold income or revenue, bonds, saving etc are calculated into the benefit and then HB deducted based on the income.

you do not satisfy the criteria, but your entitled to calim as many times as you wish.

as above but as your resident in the houshold your income is calculated aswell and i cant see where your entitled to HB.

This is nonsense.

1878, on the information given, I see no reason why your claim should be rejected. I would suggest you ask what regulation they are referring to in refusing your application. Obviously don't let this hold up your initial appeal, but there is no harm in asking for this information separately, so you know what you are appealing against.

365days

1878 wrote: »

thorsoak:

I am sorry to say your assumptions are wrong. My education is paid for by my home country and myself.

In fact, once I am graduated I will probably pay 100 times more in taxes than you have done your whole life because I will get a job with a high income. Now I could move to an Asian country and pay 0% in tax but I quite like it here so I want to stay.

I am at a point in life where I need a little help from the public but I will contribute back like I mentioned above.

Also, UK is a member of the European union which means for example that you can move to my home country and claim benefits, so this is not a one street lane.

So allow me to repeat myself: You know nothing about our needs, our rights to benefit and our personal situation so spare me your judgement.

If you do not want to help with your knowledge, please do not post in this thread.

Maybe your home country and you could pay your rent then too? In my mind a roof over your head (and your babies) is far more important than knowledge. Maslows hierachy of needs and all that.

Just my opinion. Maybe the fact that your fees are being paid from outside of the Uk maybe a reason that the HB is not forthcoming.

LittleMax

Slightly off-topic but people seem to be forgetting that our Universities depend on the fees of foreign students for their continued growth and to be able to offer courses to British students. Foreign students are contributing to the local economy.

tomtom256

LittleMax wrote: »

Slightly off-topic but people seem to be forgetting that our Universities depend on the fees of foreign students for their continued growth and to be able to offer courses to British students. Foreign students are contributing to the local economy.

Nothing to do with student loans then that the majority of students have to take out.

mikey_bach

OP can you not get a part time job to help your family out, the extra money could help pay the shortfall on your rent......

LittleMax

tomtom256 wrote: »

Nothing to do with student loans then that the majority of students have to take out.

Absolutely not ... universities charge foreign students far more than the fees British students pay. British universities actively market themselves abroad to bring in this money that they depend on. If they did not have the foreign students, many of the courses would disappear from the prospectus.

bigjl

Isn't the loan and other financial help supposed to be enough to pay your rent.

Never had a council flat of house but I have been told the rents are reasonable.

When the child is born I believe there is a grant for childcare you can apply for.

How much is you rent?

As your income was mentioned above to be £250 is that not enough to cover rent and living expenses?

When I was in Uni, many years ago, we were not allowed to claim Hiusing Benefit.

Never did bother find out why.

I think your main issue is that you are living with your wife, which does always seem to limit what assistance you can get.

I would visit CAB as even if you can't get HB there might be something else your wife could claim, ESA perhaps?

I will reread the thread to double check, but your wife is able to access public funds isn't she?

MissMoneypenny

clemmatis wrote: »

Foreign students don't get benefits. They pay the (higher) fees and all living costs etc.. They bring in a lot of money.

There is often very little difference now between home fees and international fees. But those using the EU route, get the same rate as UK home fees and can also get UK Student Loans and some also claim welfare from the UK too. It's those students who can't get into the UK under EU rules, that are charged the international fees and don't have access to UK welfare.

OP, why don't you work? Most UK students work and study. As it seems you came into the country on the EU route (as you are trying to claim welfare) there are no restrictions on the number of hours you can work as a student, to support your family. Working as a student will look better on your CV, especially as you seem to be hoping to get a high wage when you finish your studies.

Working while studying, was a big factor with my son getting a high wage when he finished his degree. My son works in finance and they won't employ someone who hasn't shown a good work ethic; just having a good degree from a top university, isn't enough. I work in investment banking and we too wouldn't employ a student who chose welfare over working to support themselves (and their family) while studying: we can't carry a weak team member with the hours we have to work.

It's the international students (those that can't use the EU route) that have restrictions on the hours they can work (10 or 20 hours a week) or are not allowed to work at all. They can't bring their families with them now, plus they don't have access to UK welfare, so need to be able to support themselves.

dktreesea

LittleMax wrote: »

Absolutely not ... universities charge foreign students far more than the fees British students pay. British universities actively market themselves abroad to bring in this money that they depend on. If they did not have the foreign students, many of the courses would disappear from the prospectus.

Incorrect. Foreign students from non EEA countries without unlimited leave to remain maybe, but EEA nationals don't have to pay fees to study in our universities , including English universities.

Edit: Maybe this just applies to Scotland. So there is a fee, the home fee, but in Scotland the government pays this for students who live in Scotland and for EEA nationals, except for those who live in parts of the UK where higher fees are charged.