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Wife refused HB because she is not working and not on JSA

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  • 1878
    1878 Posts: 12 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2013 at 9:00AM
    This is exactly the point of this discussion. I also found that if the DWP has deemed a person habitually resident then the local authority are obliged by law to accept this, if that person applies for Housing Benefit or CTB.
  • 1878 wrote: »
    This is exactly the point of this discussion.

    Let me know how you get on.

    I deal with people from abroad all the time. I also deal with native born workshy scroungers, f3ckless single parents, drug addicts, alcoholics, every type of criminal including released murderers, rapists and child molesters, wife beaters, people with varying levels of mental impairment or psychiatric illnesses, pensioners, people on low income, students, self employed, people who are working, same sex couples, every religion and nationality under the sun.

    I do not let any prejudice I might hold cloud my judgement. I treat everybody equally and will award them whatever benefit they are entitled to depending on the current legislation.

    I do not and never have shown bias against an individual because of their age, sexuality, religion, colour of their skin, criminal record, lifestyle choice or how argumentative, disruptive or obnoxious I find them.

    I would hope if you are either claiming or claim in the future that whoever deals with your claim treats you equally and fairly.

    I might not like and disagree with some of the legislation I deal with but claims will be processed and paid using the legislation that the politicians give us to use.

    If people don't like aspects of the benefit legislation then write to those who legislate - your MP.
    These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.
  • mikey_bach
    mikey_bach Posts: 912 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2013 at 9:39AM
    Let me know how you get on.

    I deal with people from abroad all the time. I also deal with native born workshy scroungers, f3ckless single parents, drug addicts, alcoholics, every type of criminal including released murderers, rapists and child molesters, wife beaters, people with varying levels of mental impairment or psychiatric illnesses, pensioners, people on low income, students, self employed, people who are working, same sex couples, every religion and nationality under the sun.

    I do not let any prejudice I might hold cloud my judgement. I treat everybody equally and will award them whatever benefit they are entitled to depending on the current legislation.

    I do not and never have shown bias against an individual because of their age, sexuality, religion, colour of their skin, criminal record, lifestyle choice or how argumentative, disruptive or obnoxious I find them.

    .




    this sound like an end of year appraisal :)

    I am not saying the OP should not get H.B if entitled but I think he could try and get a part time job lots of students do it and go on to complete their degrees
  • mikey_bach wrote: »
    this sound like an end of year appraisal :)

    I am not saying the OP should not get H.B if entitled but I think he could try and get a part time job lots of students do it and go on to complete their degrees

    lol you don't know how near the truth that was :)
    These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    The site I quoted doesn't mention anything about been classed as a Person From Abroad (PFA) vs being British or habitually resident. All it says is ' You can claim Housing Benefit if:
    You are on Income Support or claiming Job Seekers Allowance.
    You are on a low income.'

    No reference to being British or not. So it does sound as if some councils do expect the above to consider a claim. Whether it is right that it can be down to individual councils or not is I assume the issue.
  • FBaby wrote: »
    The site I quoted doesn't mention anything about been classed as a Person From Abroad (PFA) vs being British or habitually resident. All it says is ' You can claim Housing Benefit if:
    You are on Income Support or claiming Job Seekers Allowance.
    You are on a low income.'

    No reference to being British or not. So it does sound as if some councils do expect the above to consider a claim. Whether it is right that it can be down to individual councils or not is I assume the issue.

    The legislation used by Council's is national legislation applicable to all councils. It isn't an al la carte menu for local authorities to pick and choose the bits they like.
    These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    From gov.uk/housing benefits:

    You may get Housing Benefit if:

    you pay rent
    you’re on a low income or claiming benefits
    your savings are below a certain level - usually £16,000

    So again, according to this, OP might not be eligible because they don't consider their income to be low enough AND/OR because OP's wife is not claiming benefits.
  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    edited 27 April 2013 at 10:08AM
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    I don't know about Germany but I have friends who live in France and you'd have more chance of getting blood out of the proverbial stone than you would have getting unemployment benefits in France if you'd just moved there, regardless of what mught be the theory of it!
    Maybe because they have too much money...but you can claim the same benefits as any other frenchman.

    The savings disregard in France is €0.00
    and anything above this is deducted €1 for €1

    whereas in UK - remember our VERY GENEROUS benefits system allows you to have £6000.00 as a disregard and then we only deduct £1 for every £250 above that figure.

    One would assume that any friends of yours would not jolly off to live in France without substantial savings.
    I haven't read the rest of the thread either but I do know if you arrive in Spain as immigrant with no income you get NOTHING.. NADA. Even native Spaniards don't get anything for very long. So our system is very generous compared to some.
    I don't know anything about Spain, but by "immigrant" do you mean like from Africa.... they get a lot of people from Africa and of course they would be entitled to nothing, just like they are entitled to nothing if they arrive here....unless they get assylum status.
  • FBaby wrote: »
    From gov.uk/housing benefits:

    You may get Housing Benefit if:

    you pay rent
    you’re on a low income or claiming benefits
    your savings are below a certain level - usually £16,000

    So again, according to this, OP might not be eligible because they don't consider their income to be low enough AND/OR because OP's wife is not claiming benefits.

    They haven't even got as far as processing the claim. Refused as wife is treated as a PFA because she isn't in receipt of a qualifying social security benefit.

    Detail provided by O/P would indicate the O/Ps partner shouldn't be treated as a PFA

    And you don't have to be in receipt of any income to apply. I have a number of nil income claims that I have processed and paid.

    1) If a claimant is a non EEA National...

    2) Is exempt from Immigration Controls...

    3) Has right of residence...

    4) Passes HRT...

    They are entitled to claim HB/LCTS.

    Doesn't matter if they have nil income.
    These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.
  • clemmatis
    clemmatis Posts: 3,168 Forumite
    Let me know how you get on.

    I deal with people from abroad all the time. I also deal with native born workshy scroungers, f3ckless single parents, drug addicts, alcoholics, every type of criminal including released murderers, rapists and child molesters, wife beaters, people with varying levels of mental impairment or psychiatric illnesses, pensioners, people on low income, students, self employed, people who are working, same sex couples, every religion and nationality under the sun.

    I do not let any prejudice I might hold cloud my judgement. I treat everybody equally and will award them whatever benefit they are entitled to depending on the current legislation.


    You deal with "people from abroad" and * also* deal with (list of undesirables)? Seriously? People from abroad are, for better or worse, the same as us.

    I.hope you do deal with all.claimants impartially and strictly according to the rules. That is your job. It is the minimum we should expect.
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