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Do CSA take into account NRP outgoings per month.. bills/loans etc?

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  • zUnknown
    zUnknown Posts: 8 Forumite
    kevin137 wrote: »
    They can only take for the one that is biologically yours. If there is any argument and she says the child is yours then you will need to take a DNA test to stop the payment for that child.

    One child is 15%, and needs to raised as an issue NOW or they will assess at 20% and if you don't raise the issue now they can assume parentage for the the until 20...!!! That is a lot of money to be made to fork over...!

    On a different note, try talking to her and stipulate that she is committing benefit fraud and that if continues this route and plays unfairly that you won't hesitate at being as nasty as she has in going to the "government" to correct the situation... And ask her how that would feel for her.

    But you have to think carefully about it in terms of if you are prepared to follow through. And remember that if you did this while you where together, then you are no better and it is people like this that suck the life out of the system and have helped cause the situation that people on benefits are now in...!

    We didn't scheme when we were together my salary is decent so we got no tax credits. We had a mortgage and I paid all the bills.

    I've tried to speak to her but she said the CSA told her it is now out of her hands and she cant retract her claim. Is that true?
  • guruchelles
    guruchelles Posts: 159 Forumite
    zUnknown wrote: »
    I understand that but this was on the agreement that as she is fiddling the system to get more money now and free rent that she would give me a little leaway. Also 1 of the children is not biologically mine but I've raised her since she was little so I still wanted to be able to give maintenance for both although I will struggle with the higher payment and may need to think about selling the house if it gets worse.

    I don't want to go down this route.. but can the CSA take money from me if one child is not biologically mine even though I got married to the ex and raised her since she was little??

    So, as an indirect beneficiary of this fraud you were happy not to report it?

    That said, if one child definitely isn't yours, and I was the PWC going down the CSA route I would expect you to 'pull that card' and she's daft if she doesn't.
  • The very fact you have felt the need to mention 1 of the kids is not biologically yours says it all im afraid, so you could always go back and say not yours and only pay half? and shame dont want to lost your new house what about your kids sorry your 1 childs living expenses just suddenly stop his money. This story is so common next its a new girlfriend with either kids of her own which you end up supporting or you have a new batch, just man up and pay what is asked for at least your biological child!
  • kevin137
    kevin137 Posts: 1,509 Forumite
    zUnknown wrote: »
    We didn't scheme when we were together my salary is decent so we got no tax credits. We had a mortgage and I paid all the bills.

    I've tried to speak to her but she said the CSA told her it is now out of her hands and she cant retract her claim. Is that true?

    Yes she can stop the claim at any point she likes...! They would close the case and that would be the end of it...

    Receiving CSA has no reflection on her benefits either now, which is why she can close the case anytime she likes... As she would receive ALL the money the CSA collect and ALL the benefits...

    But to be fair, standing by and doing nothing is just as bad as committing the Benefit Fraud yourself... And just as a passing thought... What does it teach your children...???
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    It's difficult to feel sorry for you when you are openly supporting her defrauding the system. It sounds like you are happy for the state to provide plenty for the kids, but not you. The kids don't need a perfect house and new car, they need parents with morals to teach them right from wrong.
  • shoe*diva79
    shoe*diva79 Posts: 1,356 Forumite
    If you havent already told the CSA that one child isnt yours, you will have to pay for a DNA test yourself. When the CSA send out the MEF form, that gives you the opportunity to dispute parentage.
  • zUnknown
    zUnknown Posts: 8 Forumite
    Totally understand what a few of you mentioned but she threatened I would make the kids homeless if I reported her.

    Also... I'm not trying to get out of maintenance. I've paid it every month since she broke a 8 year marriage after her cheating. I'm not going to argue with people above.

    Thanks for your help the ones that were helpfull.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    If they become homeless because of her scrupulous behaviour, then they can come and live with you and you can teach the proper value of money.
  • kevin137
    kevin137 Posts: 1,509 Forumite
    FBaby wrote: »
    If they become homeless because of her scrupulous behaviour, then they can come and live with you and you can teach the proper value of money.

    The kids would never be "homeless" that is not an answer for not doing what you need to do... This is BRITAIN and they would always have a home, maybe not the home that SHE wants, but a roof over there head regardless...!!!

    At the end of the day, you have to do what is right for you, and i was having a dig, just pointing out that she is using emotional blackmail on you and teaching the kids that you can do what you like and there are no consequences... Not good parenting in my mind...
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Well if she was found out, and had to pay all tax credits back and then have it deducted from her entitlement, so she would would not be able to afford the house any longer, she would indeed be rehoused at some point, but the kids would be quite significantly affected. Not nice to put kids through this, but much worse then raising them with a false sense of what you get for doing little work....
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