Are diesels worth the extra money? Now what car

diesel_dog

andygb wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201304176311405/sort/default/usedcars/engine-size-cars/1-7l_to_1-9l/transmission/manual/maximum-age/up_to_7_years_old/price-to/5000/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/3000/model/octavia/make/skoda/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/me21dp/radius/1501/page/4?logcode=p

Looks a nice car, good find :beer:

stutakesphotos

Thanks, but I might be looking for something a bit smaller

GolfBravo

stutakesphotos wrote: »

So best not to bother with a 1.6 then

It's a great little engine - when it runs.

It just needs specialist TLC: regular oil changes (e.g.. short travel distances = harsh driving conditions = more frequent oil changes) using the gravity method (not oil pump) and need to keep an eye on the fuel injector washers/securing bolts, preferably at each oil change.

I wouldn't bother buying a second hand car with this particular engine - you just cannot guarantee the servicing was done properly, damage could be already done.

And this is the thing: you buy a diesel powered car to save money, and not to spend a fortune on extra oil changes.

So you really need to do your math when deciding petrol/diesel.

Ultrasonic

GolfBravo wrote: »

The other major factor is diesel engine vibration.

There is a white paper circulating in the industry by two clutch engineers from either LUK or Sachs (major clutch manufacturer), can't remember exactly. Their finding is that the major cause of premature DMF failure is the common rail diesel engine vibration during startup and, especially, shut down.

That's very interesting. Does this just apply to CR engines or older diesels as well? Think I read above someone suggesting depressing the clutch both at startup (which I do anyway) and when you switch the engine off (which I've not heard suggested before) - guess this will help prevent the problems?

stutakesphotos

Thoughts on these two?
http://www.used-cars.peugeot.co.uk/dealer/sidegate-motors-ltd/602752414-212967.aspx?srcmdc=se_de_re_

http://www.used-cars.peugeot.co.uk/dealer/sidegate-motors-ltd/602455186-212967.aspx?srcmdc=se_de_re_

Thanks for all the advice received. Cheers

geek1981

If i want to buy a Peugeot i would def go for the JustAddFuel Offer directly from dealer. Brand new 208 will only cost you £169/ month on 3 years which includes insurance, warranty, service, VED. Basically you just pay for fuel on top of your monthly payment.

motorguy

stutakesphotos wrote: »

Thoughts on these two?
http://www.used-cars.peugeot.co.uk/dealer/sidegate-motors-ltd/602752414-212967.aspx?srcmdc=se_de_re_

http://www.used-cars.peugeot.co.uk/dealer/sidegate-motors-ltd/602455186-212967.aspx?srcmdc=se_de_re_

Thanks for all the advice received. Cheers

207s are getting past their sell by date and that 207 looks expensive to me - heres a 2009 one with less miles for less....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201302145340438/sort/default/usedcars/price-to/5000/fuel-type/petrol/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/model/207/make/peugeot/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/radius/1500/keywords/2009_1.4/postcode/bt622hb?logcode=p

~Chameleon~

What about an Audi A3? Recently been looking at a 2.0 TDi probably around 2006/2007 model.

Ultrasonic

geek1981 wrote: »

If i want to buy a Peugeot i would def go for the JustAddFuel Offer directly from dealer. Brand new 208 will only cost you £169/ month on 3 years which includes insurance, warranty, service, VED. Basically you just pay for fuel on top of your monthly payment.

Which is a total of £6084 over three years, at the end of which you don't own a car. Not saying there aren't people that deal will suit, but I wouldn't go for it myself.

I'd also be a little wary of the free insurance, in that I suspect the excesses are likely to be large in the even of an accident.

Ultrasonic

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

What about an Audi A3? Recently been looking at a 2.0 TDi probably around 2006/2007 model.

I thought you were looking for a Fiesta/Clio sized car? An A3 is more Focus sized. A3s aren't cheap either, an equivalent Seat Leon would be a cheaper option to consider.

Might be a good idea to try to pin down a little better what you're looking for in a car, and what sort of budget you're prepared to spend. Including if you want a diesel or petrol (I thought you'd decided against a diesel till this last post...)