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May 1st strike at those causing the global crisis

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  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
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    Moby,

    I agree that the "sexy" media focus is always going to be directed at the mindless thuggery of the fringes; however the fact is that they have become a regular, indeed near permanent fixture and as you say drown out the message of the peaceful majority.

    In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that they do more damage to the cause of those holding peaceful protests than their own uber-extreme agenda, simply because they drown your message almost in its entirety.

    As I have said before, the media is unacceptably lazy. Why bother covering worthy yet oft neglected cases, when it can get the easy photo op of some youth shoving a bin through a Starbucks window? Boston was a good case in point as you say. The media were also extremely mute in pointing out the extreme, yet tragic irony that the bombing took place in a city that in the 80s and 90s had such welcoming and deep pockets for IRA fundraisers as the sought to finance their campaign of killing and maiming against the British citizenry. But that is another thread altogether...!!

    D_S
    DS
    Totally agree re. the Boston links with the IRA in the 80's and 90's ....that all became very quiet after 9/11!
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    You don't get paid for strike day, and in the Civil Service you lose it from your pension as well. So its the employees loss.
    You're missing the point.
    If an organisation can run without someone who has decided to take a day off, the chances that what that person does is either not required or can be taken on by another employee.

    Did anybody feel any ill effects from the strike?
  • BobQ
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    ILW wrote: »
    You're missing the point.
    If an organisation can run without someone who has decided to take a day off, the chances that what that person does is either not required or can be taken on by another employee.

    Did anybody feel any ill effects from the strike?

    Yes but the organisation does not run without people, the work gets deferred, the service is lower or sometimes not available for that day.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    BobQ wrote: »
    Yes but the organisation does not run without people, the work gets deferred, the service is lower or sometimes not available for that day.
    To my knowledge, it affected nobody which would indicate overstaffing.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 21 April 2013 at 10:40PM
    ILW wrote: »
    To my knowledge, it affected nobody which would indicate overstaffing.


    Indicates nothing. You are making big assumptions.

    Staff work round the issue in crisis situations. Protocols get broken to maintain service. It is unlikely that could be maintained for any length of time.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    Indicates nothing. You are making big assumptions.

    Staff work round the issue in crisis situations. Protocols get broken to maintain service. It is unlikely that could be maintained for any length of time.
    True. In any business, in times of unexpected staff shortages (stike/sick/bereavement leave) the public facing roles are maintained whilst others are put on hold.
    I wouldn't expect any customer to notice a % of the workforce striking for one day, or half a day, anymore than I'd expect them to notice that the flu or sickness bug was doing the rounds.
    Which pretty much sums up why sriking is pointless unless it is something that all of the workforce are passionate about and are prepared to walk out over.
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

  • BobQ
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    ILW wrote: »
    To my knowledge, it affected nobody which would indicate overstaffing.

    Then your knowledge is indeed limited!

    Had you wanted to tax a car that day you may have had a different view.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    BobQ wrote: »
    Then your knowledge is indeed limited!

    Had you wanted to tax a car that day you may have had a different view.
    I tax my cars online a week or two before due, so would not have noticed.
  • tripled wrote: »
    They also ask for any bullion dealers who can offer "special rates" to email them. They're ramping silver, hoping to get a kickback from a "recommended" dealer, or a combination of the two.


    From what everyone is saying there will be scrutiny of dealers after the May 1st strike against the banks. Those who tried to profit from it will have a bad reputation. Spot price is so low, why cant I find any real bullion near to the paper price? I am doing my bit any way I will be buying some US silver Eagles from Estonia libertysilver,ee so they are VAT free.

    So is the idea if enough of us can take enough silver off the market we will crash the system? What will come next? If the fiat system does collapse because we took the last of the silver off the table then what happens next?
  • Debbie1981 wrote: »
    From what everyone is saying there will be scrutiny of dealers after the May 1st strike against the banks. Those who tried to profit from it will have a bad reputation. Spot price is so low, why cant I find any real bullion near to the paper price? I am doing my bit any way I will be buying some US silver Eagles from Estonia libertysilver,ee so they are VAT free.

    So is the idea if enough of us can take enough silver off the market we will crash the system? What will come next? If the fiat system does collapse because we took the last of the silver off the table then what happens next?

    Maybe you should sort out your benefits before attempting to crash the fiat currency system?
    Debbie1981 wrote: »
    Please can someone help me with some advice.

    My husband has left us he has moved away. I am now a single mum with 2 kids under 6.

    Everything was in his name the housing benefit, tac credits and child benefit.

    He said he will tell all of them he will stop his claims and its up to me to start new claims for everything in my name.

    I am starting to do everything but its overwhelming.

    So far I have filled in a new claim for H.B and told tac credits I want to make a new claim for WTC and CTC. They siad they will send me a form but it will take a few weeks.

    I tried doing child benefit online but I dont know if its worked.

    Sometimes I want to scream, its all so confusing.

    Can someone point me in the right direction please?
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