We want to demolish our Garage....

sloughflint

Have just reread your first post. So the mirror is not on the garage but on the wall. Boundary wall? Is it definitely on the boundary and yours? Any reason why you want to put a fence instead of keeping the wall or building a new wall?
if you put a fence up and create a garage so close to the boundary, you will have difficulty maintaining the fence.

fluffymuffy

prudryden wrote: »

How is the boundary established between your two properties?

The wall is the wall of the garage. There is no other wall or fence. Without the garage there would be nothing there at all. Everyone is in agreement that the boundary is on the face of the wall.

sloughflint

fluffymuffy wrote: »

But they want us to keep the wall which borders their garden. Even though it's on our side and we'd have to build another skin of brickwork against it to keep it from falling down as it's very thin and needs to be part of the garage to stay up.

Sorry. I must have misunderstood this bit.
I don't understand then. You say it's all on your property so what defines the exact boundary line?
Doh: I'd best shut up as I've just read your last post.

fluffymuffy

sloughflint wrote: »

Have just reread your first post. So the mirror is not on the garage but on the wall. Boundary wall? Is it definitely on the boundary and yours? Any reason why you want to put a fence instead of keeping the wall or building a new wall?
if you put a fence up and create a garage so close to the boundary, you will have difficulty maintaining the fence.

The mirror is on the side of the garage. There is no other wall there but our garage. The garage has to come down regardless of whether planning permission would be needed for a new one. The brickwork above the front doors has colapsed onto them so the doors cannot be opened and are holding four course sof bricks up. The roof is asbestos and we've had a quote of £350 for legal disposal. It's too small anyway should we want to spend money trying to repair it we'd rather have a bigger one. We wouldn't build a new one close to the fence.

fluffymuffy

sloughflint wrote: »

Sorry. I must have misunderstood this bit.
I don't understand then. You say it's all on your property so what defines the exact boundary line?
Doh: I'd best shut up as I've just read your last post.

:rotfl:

I was just about to answer but you'd edited

fluffymuffy

never_enough wrote: »

If you want to be neighbourly then just drop a note through their door a week or so before the work starts saying that demolition will commence on XX/XX so they have a chance to remove anything they want or it ends up in the skip.

That's really good advice - even aside from questions of whether the Boundary Wall Act applies - further down the garden there is a fence (our fence) which is falling over and we want to replace at the same time. Next door say that the ivy on it (which has caused it to collapse) is theirs and so it the trellis. We should advise them to remove their things before we start work. (This is getting to sound really snotty - you'd have thought they'd be plased at getting a new fence they don't have to pay for)

prudryden

fluffymuffy wrote: »

That's really good advice - even aside from questions of whether the Boundary Wall Act applies - further down the garden there is a fence (our fence) which is falling over and we want to replace at the same time. Next door say that the ivy on it (which has caused it to collapse) is theirs and so it the trellis. We should advise them to remove their things before we start work. (This is getting to sound really snotty - you'd have thought they'd be plased at getting a new fence they don't have to pay for)

Be careful of doing anything to the Party Wall without his permission. The fence is a different matter.

sloughflint

fluffymuffy wrote: »

T further down the garden there is a fence (our fence) which is falling over and we want to replace at the same time. Next door say that the ivy on it (which has caused it to collapse) is theirs and so it the trellis. We should advise them to remove their things before we start work. (This is getting to sound really snotty - you'd have thought they'd be plased at getting a new fence they don't have to pay for)

Couldn't resist this one. Alarm bells are ringing in my ears if they've said that about the ivy. I'm afraid they are clearly going to be awkward and seem to be assessing how much they can get away with but haven't a leg to stand on. I know you are newbies and want to get on with new neighbours but it sounds as though you will have to be politely assertive with them...... to the point of "what a shame their ivy has caused damage to your fence and causing you to have to pay unecessary expense".
Yes, you would think they'd be grateful. Been there, done that.....

fluffymuffy

prudryden wrote: »

Be careful of doing anything to the Party Wall without his permission. The fence is a different matter.

Is this definitely a Part Wall then?

I can only find reference to Party Walls sitting on top of boundaries with the boundary going through the middle or all on one side when used to enclose a building next door.

I found this government leaflet - http://www.communities.gov.uk/pub/411/PartyWalletcAct1996explanatorybookletPDF597Kb_id1131411.pdf

What is a party wall?
The Act recognises two main types of party wall.

Party wall type (a)
A wall is a "party wall" if it stands astride the boundary of land belonging to two (or more) different owners. Such a wall: is part of one building (see diagram 1), or separates two (or more) buildings (see diagram 2), or consists of a “party fence wall” (see diagram 3). A wall is a "party fence wall" if it is not part of a building, and stands astride the boundary line between lands of different owners and is used to separate those lands (for example a garden wall). This does not include such things as wooden fences.

Party wall type (b)
A wall is also a “party wall” if it stands wholly on one owner’s land, but is used by two (or more) owners to separate their buildings (see diagram 4). An example would be where one person has built the wall in the first place, and
another has butted their building up against it without constructing their own wall. Only the part of the wall that does the separating is "party" - sections on either side or above are not "party".

never_enough

fluffymuffy wrote: »

That's really good advice - even aside from questions of whether the Boundary Wall Act applies - further down the garden there is a fence (our fence) which is falling over and we want to replace at the same time. Next door say that the ivy on it (which has caused it to collapse) is theirs and so it the trellis. We should advise them to remove their things before we start work. (This is getting to sound really snotty - you'd have thought they'd be plased at getting a new fence they don't have to pay for)

Not snotty at all. I have to agree with sloughflint. They sound like a real pain in the @rse. Absolutely make sure you do things above board, but take no prisoners if they start causing trouble when you're doing what you're perfectly at liberty to do.
I'd be inclined to stick a hedge in, copper beech mixed with a few evergreens, will grow tall as you want, just keep it trimmed & it will soon thicken up. Or maybe barbed wire & machine gun turrets?! :rolleyes: :eek: :rotfl:
The party wall Act is ridiculous if it makes you keep a wall up that is part of an unsafe garage. Your neighbours may have it looking nice from their side, but it would look rubbish from yours.
Oh & tell them to stop damaging your property by growing plants over it/attaching trellis to it!! Yes, I'm feeling very grumpy this afternoon, but honestly some people just never cease to amaze me!