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Cavity Wall Insulation -Grant?

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  • budgetdiyer
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    Before your son wastes any time he should refer the assessor / surveyor whatever they are calling themselves to the management company for the block of flats. Since its physically impossible for them to install cavity wall insulation to a particular flat, they'll need the consent of all other owners in the block.
  • macman
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    edited 19 April 2013 at 7:55PM
    My son has found out more. Apparently it is the Green Deal and whilst usually means-tested, some places qualify because of the postcode, his block ofd flats is one of them. He has talked to another resident who has had it done and they said it was fine, and they had nothing to pay.

    So he is going ahead with his survey and will take it from there.

    http://www.greendealsurveying.co.uk/green-deal-surveys/services/WhowillqualifyforaGreenDealGrant.aspx

    If you live in a postcode are where there is a designated likelihood of fuel poverty, you will be able to claim free loft and cavity wall insulation regardless of whether you are in receipt of benefits or not.

    The Green Deal is a loan scheme. The repayment is made via your future electrcity and gas bills over a 10 year period, with 7% interest on top, It's not a 'free insulation' scheme as such. As already pointed out, CWI is not possible for individual flats in such a block, it will have to be done with the freeholder's consent for the whole block.
    I suggest you look at the official Green Deal site first rather than trusting a badly written assessor's advert.
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  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 20 April 2013 at 6:52AM
    macman wrote: »
    The Green Deal is a loan scheme. The repayment is made via your future electrcity and gas bills over a 10 year period, with 7% interest on top, It's not a 'free insulation' scheme as such. As already pointed out, CWI is not possible for individual flats in such a block, it will have to be done with the freeholder's consent for the whole block.
    I suggest you look at the official Green Deal site first rather than trusting a badly written assessor's advert.

    Thanks all for your comments. We will wait to see what the assessor says. At least my son knows what questions to ask now.

    The freeholder surely has no reason to refuse. It's improving their asset, after all!
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  • Thanks all for your comments. We will wait to see what the assessor says. At least my son knows what questions to ask now.

    The freeholder surely has no reason to refuse. It's improving their asset, after all!

    Hi there

    Just to confirm in your sons case the insulation would be free as it would be treated under the Energy Company Obligation (ECO) the strand name carbon emissions reduction obligation (CERO)

    Under this scheme its free to treat hard to treat cavity walls and 3 or more story properties fall into hard to treat. However consents would be needed from other owners and the freeholder before it could be installed.
  • Hi there

    Just to confirm in your sons case the insulation would be free as it would be treated under the Energy Company Obligation (ECO) the strand name carbon emissions reduction obligation (CERO)

    Under this scheme its free to treat hard to treat cavity walls and 3 or more story properties fall into hard to treat. However consents would be needed from other owners and the freeholder before it could be installed.

    Thanks very much monstereyebrows for confirming this, which is what we have been led to understand :)
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  • budgetdiyer
    budgetdiyer Posts: 263 Forumite
    The freeholder surely has no reason to refuse. It's improving their asset, after all!

    Whether cavity wall insulation improves a property is open to debate.

    I live in a 'block' of two, my upstairs neighbour would like it installed but i do not want it installed. I'm sure search for yourself to find discussions on why retrofitted / blown cavity wall insulation might not be such a great idea.
  • Whether cavity wall insulation improves a property is open to debate.

    I live in a 'block' of two, my upstairs neighbour would like it installed but i do not want it installed. I'm sure search for yourself to find discussions on why retrofitted / blown cavity wall insulation might not be such a great idea.

    I think it is rockwool, iirc.
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  • macman
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    Thanks all for your comments. We will wait to see what the assessor says. At least my son knows what questions to ask now.

    The freeholder surely has no reason to refuse. It's improving their asset, after all!

    They won't necessarily want to pay for it though. All the freeholders and possibly all the leaseholders would need to approve it, and the cost divided up. It's then a 10 year millstone, not to mention a deterrent to buyers.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • macman wrote: »
    They won't necessarily want to pay for it though. All the freeholders and possibly all the leaseholders would need to approve it, and the cost divided up. It's then a 10 year millstone, not to mention a deterrent to buyers.

    It will be free, as monstereyebrows has explained in post 15 above.
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  • Furts
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    edited 21 April 2013 at 4:42PM
    I think it is rockwool, iirc.

    Just in case it helps, I am aware of a recently cavity wall insulated house with severe rain penetration through the wall. The rain crosses the cavity and runs down the inside of the house. This property had plastic beads pumped into the cavity.

    Had it been blown fibre, such as Rockwool, it is probable the wet would me much worse.

    I am aware of many nearby homes with defective blown fibre insulation. This has to then be removed from the cavity walls - a nightmare job. Indeed I was made aware of yet another nearby home only last week.

    To any mse forum users thinking about cavity wall insulation, I suggest you ponder long and deep over the decision. It will cause problems with some houses.
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