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House prices in the real world....

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  • harpoboy
    harpoboy Posts: 164 Forumite
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Why do plebs like you and Graham insist that everything must be a lie? You assume everyone is at your sad little level.

    As it stands my offer of £184 is still the highest but the EA and the owner are convinced they will get an offer of asking today as someone is coming back for a 4th viewing.

    My initial offer of 180 was rejected by the EA on the vendors behalf the second I made it.

    My offer of 184 was met with a sigh and "heh, ok well I'll forward it on anyway".

    The market does seem to be moving evermore towards the vendor, rather than the purchaser with achieved prices now typically within 3% of asking:

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/articles/property-news/property-selling-prices-edge-closer-to-asking-prices
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    fc123 wrote: »
    ...sorry but you're wrong. They are not going to go down, the crash has been and gone.

    Granted, they rean't going to leap by big chunks up and up each year but they are dribbling up bit by bit to keep up with inflation.

    Remind me what's been the increase in inflation since property prices peaked in 2007?
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    harpoboy wrote: »
    The market does seem to be moving evermore towards the vendor, rather than the purchaser with achieved prices now typically within 3% of asking:

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/articles/property-news/property-selling-prices-edge-closer-to-asking-prices

    Which again I imagine is very likely down to 'the London effect'.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    But do you genuinely believe that an EA would laugh at an offer which is less than 5% under the asking price?

    Yes - what's the problem?

    We could do with Brit to comment - I reckon the buyers strike is over.
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Yes - what's the problem?

    We could do with Brit to comment - I reckon the buyers strike is over.

    Showing your true colours now wotsthat. So someone puts in a perfectly reasonable offer.....the estate agent laughs at this, and that's reasonable and acceptable behaviour is it?
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,793 Forumite
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    dryhat wrote: »
    The only reason the HPI nutters want prices to rise is so they can borrow some more money.

    What a sad bunch of chancers.

    I want it so that we have an even larger retirement fund. I have to say though that we are perfectly satisfied with what we would have if we sold right now, but we aren't going to turn our noses up at even more.
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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Showing your true colours now wotsthat. So someone puts in a perfectly reasonable offer.....the estate agent laughs at this, and that's reasonable and acceptable behaviour is it?

    Why not PM Joeskeppi and ask for the name of the estate agent? You could put a complaint in on his behalf if you're that outraged.
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Why not PM Joeskeppi and ask for the name of the estate agent? You could put a complaint in on his behalf if you're that outraged.

    Good idea.
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    I woudnt say 'crash' is the right term more like an ongoing natural adjustment, trickling down slowly just as some prices are rising slowly.

    Lets not forget the housing market doesn't just consist or London/ the SE and Aberdeen or the more exclusive areas of bigger cities and the larger increases these locations may enjoy when applied to national figures will obviously dilute the losses and make the picture look more favourable overall.

    I live in a very nice area in a very large detached house, these properties do not come on the market often and because of the area sell fairly quickly at at asking price when they do. Yet around 70% of terraces,semi's, flats and newbuilds within a mile or two miles bought around the time of the boom are selling at a loss.

    This cannot be unique to my locality and is likely a story in many parts of the country? We may not be seeing a crash per se but natural adjustment is still occurring.

    This isn't a convincing argumment though...your house is a big swish one so it's high but the rest aren't?
    The smaller stuff isn't selling at a 'loss' maybe it's just selling at a lower price because there is more of it?
    Prices are not as low as 2009/2010 in most areas.
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Why do plebs like you and Graham insist that everything must be a lie? You assume everyone is at your sad little level.

    As it stands my offer of £184 is still the highest but the EA and the owner are convinced they will get an offer of asking today as someone is coming back for a 4th viewing.

    My initial offer of 180 was rejected by the EA on the vendors behalf the second I made it.

    My offer of 184 was met with a sigh and "heh, ok well I'll forward it on anyway".
    Contact the vendor directly. We did and just bought at a lot less than asking....but then it was in a state + ' over priced' in our view....and then we found out vendor was a bit strapped so keen to do a deal. He has been trying to flog it for a while @ 159 and we just bought @ 125.
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Remind me what's been the increase in inflation since property prices peaked in 2007?
    No idea Thrug :) All I know is day to living costs are up and house prices were going to follow up behind at some point.
    I could try and guess though......say 4% pa for 5 years. How do I work that out? Do I times 4% by 5 so = 20%?
    Snag is wages aren't keeping up but the change is deeper than that. I think there could be a return to property being owned by fewer people. One of those society changes that creeps up and you don't notice it until something flags it up one day.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    fc123 wrote: »
    No idea Thrug :) All I know is day to living costs are up and house prices were going to follow up behind at some point.

    If disposable incomes for the majority are falling then be interesting to know how house prices can follow........

    Not that prices bore much relationship to inflation for a number of years. More to lax lending .
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