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Reasonable Deduction For Fair Wear & Tear

Hi,

I'm guarantor for my son who has just moved out of his rented accommodation. We cleaned and painted and the landlord was happy overall. However, the landlord wants my son to replace two sets of vertical blinds (plus fittings) due to the fact that they are grubby. I agree fully with the landlord and I'm happy, as guarantor, to foot the bill if the amount isn't covered by my son's deposit.

However, the blinds are at least three years old (the length of my son's tenancy). Am I entitled to ask for a deduction to reflect three years fair wear and tear?

I'm not trying to shirk responsibility at all but I know that they are going to be fairly expensive as the landlord wants them professionally fitted!

Any guidance on what the expected like of mid-range vertical fabric blinds would be greatly appreciated.
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  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    Yes you are.

    The landlord isn't allowed betterment.

    Unfortunately due to taking care of my own belongings I don't know the average lifespan of things like blinds.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    What's wrong with cleaning them? Dirty items don't need replacing they just need cleaning. A professional cleaner wouild get them done for less than the cost of new.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • dotdash79
    dotdash79 Posts: 1,069 Forumite
    Do you know what the expected lifespan of the blinds are?

    Could these be cleaned rather than replaced?
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    What's wrong with cleaning them? Dirty items don't need replacing they just need cleaning. A professional cleaner wouild get them done for less than the cost of new.

    They are VERY grubby. Particularly the rails and cords. He's been fair throughout the tenancy so I don't want to rock the boat...unless his quote is ridiculously high!
  • dotdash79 wrote: »
    Do you know what the expected lifespan of the blinds are?

    Could these be cleaned rather than replaced?

    Unfortunately, I can't find any guidance about life expectancy of blinds anywhere.
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    JuliaJames wrote: »
    Unfortunately, I can't find any guidance about life expectancy of blinds anywhere.
    10 years.

    http://www.ribaproductselector.com/Docs/2/02352/external/COL102352.pdf
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • <sebb>
    <sebb> Posts: 453 Forumite
    My mum had fabric vertical blinds fitted in her house when she moved in. They were pretty good quality. They lasted 12 years before they became in need of replacement. Although she did smoke in the house for the first 5 years before giving up, and that probably reduced their life expectancy.
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
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    JuliaJames wrote: »
    They are VERY grubby. Particularly the rails and cords. He's been fair throughout the tenancy so I don't want to rock the boat...unless his quote is ridiculously high!

    Personally, I can't see how insisting that they are cleaned, rather than replaced is rocking the boat.
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    10 years.



    You're a star! :beer:
    Thanks to everyone for their replies.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    OP - presumably your son's tenancy deposit was lodged with one of the tenancy deposit schemes *and* he was given the relevant scheme's "prescribed information"?

    You may like to check the documents section on the mydeposits scheme web pages ( input from other deposit schemes) for a guide to deposits and fair wear and tear etc. FW&T does not usually cover grime - its more to do with changes that would occur naturally over time such as flattening of pile on a carpet, indentations from furniture, fading of carpets/soft furnishings etc due to sunlight exposure and so on.

    The LL may like to read this cleaning guide from an Aussie blinds company :wink:: maybe your son should also read it so he knows how to better protect his deposit in future.

    Of course, if the deposit has not been dealt with according to the law then your son will have room for manoeuvre.
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