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What Did Thatcher Ever Do For Us?

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  • daniboy
    daniboy Posts: 316 Forumite
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    edited 11 April 2013 at 12:30PM
    purch wrote: »
    In reply to JJ's earlier question Exchange Controls were removed the day after I finished reading the 3 large and very heavy books that contained all of the rules and regulations....in 1981 I think.

    It was probably the highest factor in ushering in the Banking boom in this country that followed, far more significant than the Big Bang ever was, and was a clear signal of intent from the Thatcher Government.

    I completely agree. I was in my late teens when Thatcher was in government. I live in the North-East. I watched and have witnessed over the year's whole generations of people growing up with a dog eat dog mentality born directly from Thatchers ideology of "go get it" , stamp on everything and anything in your way to achieve it. I clearly remember being ashamed that she represented women as first woman prime minister. She certainly did not represent me. I have worked all my life never claimed benefits, and funded myself through uni by working nights as a nurse and attending uni during the day. I was also a single parent at the time. Margaret Thatcher's only influence on me was that I wanted to have more compassion for my fellow human beings unlike the ruthless selfish image she projected all in the name of politics.

    Well, let her rest in peace but she caused much misery and deeper sociological impact for the worse not better.

    Opinions will always be divided on her legacy but having lived through it she has not much to be proud of in my opinion. Thatchers children, Cameron, Osborne etc you can keep them for me as they continue along her selfish road.:(
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    There are reasons for it though. If the full facts were known, the typical daily mail foaming at the mouth racists would pipe down quite quickly if they expect to be paid a state pension over the next decade.
  • Ionkontrol
    Ionkontrol Posts: 802 Forumite
    Defending Thatcher's 'achievements' is like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Ionkontrol wrote: »
    Defending Thatcher's 'achievements' is like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity.

    I suppose stopping subsidies to loss making companies is exactly the same as raping young girls to some.

    It seems a little rabid to me.
  • redbuzzard
    redbuzzard Posts: 718 Forumite
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    All the dancing in the streets and jubilation at Thatcher's death makes me sick. Those who condemn her for what happened between 1979 and 1990 should remember that as leader she and the Conservatives won no fewer than three elections. If you think that 1983 and 1987 were because of the Falklands effect, then that doesn't say much for the voters either.

    So somebody must have approved of what the Conservative government was doing. Not to mention the fact that there was a cabinet, and a parliament.

    The behaviour of the unions in the 1960s and 70s was a disgrace. None of the previous Labour and a Conservative government got anywhere near control of inflation and the economy despite repeated efforts and pay restraint and industrial relations. Callaghan's attempts at a consensus approach were punished worst of all.

    The Thatcher government actually succeeded where they had failed, whether or not we like the way it happened, though it was probably inevitable given the determination of the union leaders to bring down any government that tried to tackle the economic problems. And the voters kept telling them they approved.

    And I am not a Conservative voter.
    "Things are never so bad they can't be made worse" - Humphrey Bogart
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    If you want to see why the Cons won the 1983 google, "The Longest Suicide Note in History". Also remember that at the time the UK was o all intents and purposes at war with the USSR and most of Eastern Europe.
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
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    redbuzzard wrote: »
    All the dancing in the streets and jubilation at Thatcher's death makes me sick. Those who condemn her for what happened between 1979 and 1990 should remember that as leader she and the Conservatives won no fewer than three elections. If you think that 1983 and 1987 were because of the Falklands effect, then that doesn't say much for the voters either.

    So somebody must have approved of what the Conservative government was doing. Not to mention the fact that there was a cabinet, and a parliament.

    The behaviour of the unions in the 1960s and 70s was a disgrace. None of the previous Labour and a Conservative government got anywhere near control of inflation and the economy despite repeated efforts and pay restraint and industrial relations. Callaghan's attempts at a consensus approach were punished worst of all.

    The Thatcher government actually succeeded where they had failed, whether or not we like the way it happened, though it was probably inevitable given the determination of the union leaders to bring down any government that tried to tackle the economic problems. And the voters kept telling them they approved.

    And I am not a Conservative voter.
    Some truth in this but she destroyed the manufacturing base of this country in the process and turned us into a financial services and service industry based economy. Germany did it the right way and has gone from strength to strength.
  • Ionkontrol
    Ionkontrol Posts: 802 Forumite
    redbuzzard wrote: »
    If you think that 1983 and 1987 were because of the Falklands effect, then that doesn't say much for the voters either.

    The masses are asses, and that is being nice about it.
  • redbuzzard
    redbuzzard Posts: 718 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    If you want to see why the Cons won the 1983 google, "The Longest Suicide Note in History".

    Quite. Good point. There really was no credible alternative being offered.
    "Things are never so bad they can't be made worse" - Humphrey Bogart
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Ionkontrol wrote: »
    Defending Thatcher's 'achievements' is like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity.

    I personally have no issue whatsoever with maggies friendship with commie hating dictators.
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