Boss questioning illness - constructive dismissal?

Varren12

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Why are you getting sick so often, you've had two vomiting bugs, minor cold and influenza in six months? Sounds like your immune system is low, IMO review your diet. You need a balance of different foods to supply all the nutrients for immune health: oily fish, mineral and fibre rich foods (nuts, seeds, beans, lentils), fruit and veg etc. People get hung up by zinc and vitamin C and that is nowhere near enough. Since I cleaned up my act I've had one cold in six to eight years, one bout of food poisoning from being stupid with leftover curry. Prior to that I had a 'normal' amount of sickness episodes.

Standard student really - theres constant bugs going around. As soon as one person gets it in a student household, everyone will. Likewise with a work environment when you've been working off little sleep, and are in a high stress job. Prior exposure to the glandular fever virus is probably also some influence. That said, i've worked through illness before, but if I'm vomiting, then its a bad idea.

I have changed my diet since being at university to a much healthier diet, focusing on decent food, and good intake of vitamins.

mgdavid

is bar work 'high stress'? :eek:

if you are that experienced and, by your own admission, that good - then surely the easiest solution would be to go and work for another company that treats people a little better.

Fire_Fox

Varren12 wrote: »

Standard student really - theres constant bugs going around. As soon as one person gets it in a student household, everyone will. Likewise with a work environment when you've been working off little sleep, and are in a high stress job. Prior exposure to the glandular fever virus is probably also some influence. That said, i've worked through illness before, but if I'm vomiting, then its a bad idea.

I have changed my diet since being at university to a much healthier diet, focusing on decent food, and good intake of vitamins.

But that is not the way it needs to be. I've lived in shared houses, work with the public as did all my housemates at the last place (all in healthcare so daily contact with sick and well people). Only one of us got sick regularly and she lived on sh1te only one step up from fast food. No offence but I wouldn't say bar work is any more stressful than numerous other jobs, nor is being a student, nor is both together.

Vitamins are only a one part of the equation, for some reason that is the one people get hung up on. Look at the full range of minerals, essential fatty acids, especially the long chain omega-3s, protein little and often. Might consider asking your doctor about a course of freeze dried probiotics to replenish your gut flora (friendly bacteria) after the digestive upset - these actually form part of your immune system.

Do try and resolve your sleep issues, don't do what I did and run yourself until you become too sick to work at all. That is why I retrained from a different branch of healthcare to lifestyle. If you don't already get your 10,000 steps or the equivalent each and every day (you probably exceed that work days if it's a large pub), regular physical activity is so important for stress management and immune function.

paddedjohn

01923477777 spoons head office if that's the chain, ask for HR.

getmore4less

Thinking you get on with people and managers, might be an illusion,

I see it in our local JDW, all smiles face to face, but B***h about each other behind their backs even those in the same cliques.

There are a few proper career people and they keep their noses clean, work hard full time and climbing the ladder quick the rest are just wanabees that will go nowhere except move on eventualy.

For someone with so much claimed experience in the trade and management I don't understand why you can't just talk to the person about this public humiliation on the notice board?

Another option is to make sure you are on shift the next time the area manager is due in and aask them(by showing the notice) if they think this is appropriate.

Varren12

mgdavid wrote: »

is bar work 'high stress'? :eek:

if you are that experienced and, by your own admission, that good - then surely the easiest solution would be to go and work for another company that treats people a little better.

If you've worked in a bar or service environment, you'd understand why its classed as a high stress job. Especially if said bars start to involve cocktails.

I'd prefer to be at another company. The problem is, the company has treated staff better than other places I've worked. To put it mildly, theres few that actually treat staff well, or bother to train them. Also, i'm in a relatively small town, theres few other bars/clubs/pubs that are currently taking on staff. I'm at the stage where I can run a bar, but don't have anything like the finance required to do so.

Fire_Fox wrote: »

But that is not the way it needs to be. I've lived in shared houses, work with the public as did all my housemates at the last place (all in healthcare so daily contact with sick and well people). Only one of us got sick regularly and she lived on sh1te only one step up from fast food. No offence but I wouldn't say bar work is any more stressful than numerous other jobs, nor is being a student, nor is both together.

Vitamins are only a one part of the equation, for some reason that is the one people get hung up on. Look at the full range of minerals, essential fatty acids, especially the long chain omega-3s, protein little and often. Might consider asking your doctor about a course of freeze dried probiotics to replenish your gut flora (friendly bacteria) after the digestive upset - these actually form part of your immune system.

Do try and resolve your sleep issues, don't do what I did and run yourself until you become too sick to work at all. That is why I retrained from a different branch of healthcare to lifestyle. If you don't already get your 10,000 steps or the equivalent each and every day (you probably exceed that work days if it's a large pub), regular physical activity is so important for stress management and immune function.

I'd say its more stressful than say... retail. In a busy bar, then it can get stressful. There tends to be more considerations when alcohol is involved as well, as theres more idiocy from customers. I'd not compare it to a medical profession in terms of stress or difficulty - having done some medical training in the past, and due to be doing some via the TA in the future - I've already done the diet, exercise regime. Immune system is shot at the moment due to lack of sleep, deadlines, and work we've had to do over the last few weeks.

In regards to the degree, that depends on how much work is required. I'm not studying a media studies degree here.

getmore4less wrote: »

Thinking you get on with people and managers, might be an illusion,

I see it in our local JDW, all smiles face to face, but B***h about each other behind their backs even those in the same cliques.

There are a few proper career people and they keep their noses clean, work hard full time and climbing the ladder quick the rest are just wanabees that will go nowhere except move on eventualy.

For someone with so much claimed experience in the trade and management I don't understand why you can't just talk to the person about this public humiliation on the notice board?

Another option is to make sure you are on shift the next time the area manager is due in and aask them(by showing the notice) if they think this is appropriate.

I'm more than aware of the !!!!!ing that goes on - theres always separate little groups of people. Its why I always keep my mouth shut for the first month to work whose who, and what people say. Generally speaking, the vast majority of staff I get on with, and I've not really had any problems as I've not !!!!!ed about anyone. Any issue i've had with other staff, i'll talk to them about it, in private.

I would talk to them if possible - if they'd responded to either of my messages requesting that they rang me to speak about it. I've made the effort to try to, they haven't. From the sounds of it, they were understaffed more than ususual, which would explain the staff group comment.

In regards to the area manager, not much point - this GM is likely to replace them in the next few months, and they've worked together for years.

In regards to HR being contacted, see my above point. If it was to the point where it was abuse every shift and the GM was like Gordon Ramsey, then i'd consider it. At present, not much point, as I'd lose.