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Bag Tax
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Would you accept the UK Environment Agency? Link: http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/research/library/publications/129364.aspx
So a single-use paper bag is 3 times worse than a single-use plastic bag. And if you re-use your plastic shopping bags for garbage, you would have to use the paper bag 6 times. (Edit: Actually the report says 7 times, must be due to rounding).
I'm lucky if I get at least one use out of most paper bags! Esp when it rains and you're in town, one drop of water and you're !!!!!!ed at the best of times, the rest of the time the handles always rip off or someone bumps into you and there's a rip that grows bigger each step you take. I think it's a disgrace we have to pay for the paper bags, at least with plastic ones you have SOME chance of being able to re-use them again.Pay all debt off by Christmas 2025 £815.45/£3,000£1 a day challenge 2025 - £180/£730 Declutter a bag a week in 2025 11/52Lose 25lb - 10/25lbs Read 1 book per week - 5/52Pay off credit card debt 18%/100%0 -
woofwoofwoof wrote: »Mistral - I was in Lidl today and below the 9p price ticket for the bags it said that 5p of that was government tax.
The large bags were that price before the introduction of the bag tax. I think the smaller ones were 4 or 5p. Looks like they have gone up.0 -
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Would you accept the UK Environment Agency? Link: http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/research/library/publications/129364.aspx
Thanks, but personally I dont accept EA's so called 'evidence',
the EA are DOE's counterparts, of course they will demonise carbon. I havent read the full report, but it looks like they are talking in context of global warming. I dont believe in the whole carbon and global warming thing.
whether you do believe in carbon footprints, then the mere carbon offset of any disposable carrier bag (paper or plastic) is grossly negligible when compared to carbon footprint of the shopping contents they contain.
So a single-use paper bag is 3 times worse than a single-use plastic bag. And if you re-use your plastic shopping bags for garbage, you would have to use the paper bag 6 times. (Edit: Actually the report says 7 times, must be due to rounding).
I just love the way they bias one type of paper (56g the flimsiest) to various grades of plastic polymer. The EA's report is fundamentally flawed as paper comes in many grades and thickness,
for example, a paper sack used for dog/poultry meal/potatoes is as tough as old boots, this grade could be used many times and as a bin liner if one chose to do so.
Bottom line is disposables are part of the modern civilised world0 -
IrishRose12 wrote: »I'm lucky if I get at least one use out of most paper bags! Esp when it rains and you're in town, one drop of water and you're !!!!!!ed at the best of times, the rest of the time the handles always rip off or someone bumps into you and there's a rip that grows bigger each step you take. I think it's a disgrace we have to pay for the paper bags, at least with plastic ones you have SOME chance of being able to re-use them again.
I always hated the big paper bags from the likes of Monsoon but the staff always took so much loving care packing the stuff in tissue paper etc I hadn't the heart to refuse.:)0 -
Very peed off that Subway are charging 5p to put their sandwiches into their plastic carriers - I wouldn't take the chance on just carrying it home in its paper wrapper. Also they were charging this all of last week.0
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Mistral001 wrote: »The large bags were that price before the introduction of the bag tax. I think the smaller ones were 4 or 5p. Looks like they have gone up.
I haven't been able to get the smaller cheaper bags from the Lidl out at Newtownabbey for a few weeks now. Think they've been trying to make an extra couple of pence knowing people would buy more of their smaller ones.Pay all debt off by Christmas 2025 £815.45/£3,000£1 a day challenge 2025 - £180/£730 Declutter a bag a week in 2025 11/52Lose 25lb - 10/25lbs Read 1 book per week - 5/52Pay off credit card debt 18%/100%0 -
I just carry a backpack most of the time. Much easier, I always shop in Lidl so I am used to bringing my own bag."All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered, the point is to discover them."
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Very peed off that Subway are charging 5p to put their sandwiches into their plastic carriers - I wouldn't take the chance on just carrying it home in its paper wrapper. Also they were charging this all of last week.
That has to count as hot food. You get the sub toasted so that's hot and exempt to me.0
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