Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.

neverdespairgirl

djdandew wrote: »

And when you look at it that way you then realise we actually live under a dictatorship and not a democracy so you can't blame people for wanting their voices heard because voting obviously is pointless

Eh? It looks like a democracy, quacks like a democracy.....

mumps

djdandew wrote: »

No i no you weren't mumps and i am sorry i should of replied to you and then said what i said underneath in a separate post, please accept my apology

Apology accepted. Sometimes it is easy to get the wrong impression isn't it?

I can't believe what they are saying about NMW.

euronorris

Pollycat wrote: »

According to The Guardian he says he's already done it twice. :cool:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/02/iain-duncan-smith-petition-benefits

That may well be true, but I am willing to bet that he had significant savings or other income to rely on. A lot of people don't have that luxury. So I doubt his experience of being unemployed was the same as most peoples.

For anyone to make such a claim, they should be willing to back it up and prove they could do it. If, for no other reason than to have a better understanding of people from all levels of income, not just their own. They are representing the country of course, not just a select few, right?

djdandew

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Eh? It looks like a democracy, quacks like a democracy.....

Acts like a dictatorship.

Did you say yes to bail out the banks, did you wan't to start a war in Iraq, affgan, under the pretense of terrorist's when in actual fact they wanted control of the oil fields and all the other riches in the middle east. no i don't think you did, Wake up you live in a dictatorship, and when that euro finally collapses i would get your money out of the bank

bomb_the_cherry

ILW wrote: »

I am self employed, nothing to stop anyone trying it.

Oh really? I'd happily try self employment if I had any profitable skills, or any ideas for a business, or the finances to start something up. But I have none of those. Any bright ideas for me, seeing as you seem to know so much?

Dunroamin

guilds wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me, the amount of apathy there is in this country.
and on this forum too. A number of posters on this thread regularly week in week out whine on about how the system has dealt them a bad hand, no money left for gym memberships no money left for heating no money for fuel, or food, then someone does something positive the then same people state it is a waste of time, I can tell you there are people in the government who wish this poll had not started, it has got people talking, and it is on every news channel in the UK and in Europe. I sit here warm and snug in my large house in the country, it dose not affect me at all and I feel more enraged than those on the receiving end, are you really that downtrodden?.

Well, I've checked the online version of Le Monde, El Pais and Die Welt and there's no mention of it on any of them.

Perhaps it's big news in Bulgaria?

NB
The UK is part of Europe.

mazza111

While I agree that cuts had to be made, I do agree they are happening in the wrong places.

Anyone under 25 in social housing, who finds themselves unemployed for whatever reason will have £57/week to pay the bills etc. This is the group that will be hit hardest. I'm thinking of those kids specifically who've had no other options but leave their family homes.

Those on JSA will be the next group to be hit on £71/week.

As nannytone stated, it will be a bit easier for those of us on ESA as we get around £99-105 depending on group.

It will be a bit easier again for those on ESA/DLA combination.

Yes it's doable, but it's very hard. Especially if you have an appliance break down etc, or your last pair of trousers burst. My dd found herself in this position for a while until her ESA was sorted, and I found myself picking her up clothes in the sales, or buying BOGOF in the shops and giving her the free ones.

IDS may have found himself unemployed twice, that didn't mean he had to live on the breadline, isn't his wife a multimillionaire? Not jealous of him, but for him to say he's lived on the breadline is laughable.

getzls

Of course he could survive on it for a week, even a few weeks or months.

But how soul destroying must it be to survive on it indefinitely?

That's what he needs to try.

djdandew

mazza111 wrote: »

While I agree that cuts had to be made, I do agree they are happening in the wrong places.

Anyone under 25 in social housing, who finds themselves unemployed for whatever reason will have £57/week to pay the bills etc. This is the group that will be hit hardest. I'm thinking of those kids specifically who've had no other options but leave their family homes.

Those on JSA will be the next group to be hit on £71/week.

As nannytone stated, it will be a bit easier for those of us on ESA as we get around £99-105 depending on group.

It will be a bit easier again for those on ESA/DLA combination.

Yes it's doable, but it's very hard. Especially if you have an appliance break down etc, or your last pair of trousers burst. My dd found herself in this position for a while until her ESA was sorted, and I found myself picking her up clothes in the sales, or buying BOGOF in the shops and giving her the free ones.

IDS may have found himself unemployed twice, that didn't mean he had to live on the breadline, isn't his wife a multimillionaire? Not jealous of him, but for him to say he's lived on the breadline is laughable.

Yep can't quite see him scrambling through his two pence jar scarping a fiver together because the elece is about to run out

Jennifer_Jane

IDS didn't have to live on JSA indefinitely, though, did he? He got a job.

I won't be signing the petition.