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Vehicle Control Services, Liverpool Airport

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  • andybrock
    andybrock Posts: 146 Forumite
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    The wording on the invoice states:
    This parking charge notice is issued to registration mark xxxxxxx for allegedly breaching the car park terms and conditions of access to the Privately Operated Roads at Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

    No byelaws so they can use POFA.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    jkdd77 wrote: »
    The airport website makes two references to the airport byelaws,
    http://www.liverpoolairport.com/premiumlounge/aspire-lounge-terms-and-conditions.html
    although, as far as I can tell, there is no full copy online:

    The Airports Byelaws (Designation) Order 1987 also refers to Liverpool Airport as being an airport for which byelaws may be made.

    What this means is that the driver may or may not have committed an offence under the relevant byelaws, but in any case the PPC can't prosecute.

    Better still, RK liability does not apply, so I'd ignore all the way rather than give the PPC any information as to who was driving.

    But it doesn't apply to vcs as they issue parking charge notices only, so bylaws don't apply to them, and if this was issued under bylaws it would have to say so on the ticket.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    andybrock wrote: »
    The wording on the invoice states:
    This parking charge notice is issued to registration mark xxxxxxx for allegedly breaching the car park terms and conditions of access to the Privately Operated Roads at Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

    No byelaws so they can use POFA.

    We know no bylaws are referenced as its a parking charge notice. You can either ignore or go for an appeal and eventually popla
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • face-t
    face-t Posts: 67 Forumite
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    Just to be more specific, I needed to stop on a road out of airport to fasten seatbelt that got unfastened, roughly 30 seconds
  • jkdd77
    jkdd77 Posts: 271 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2013 at 10:30AM
    The question of whether the land on which the OP parked is covered by byelaws is a matter of fact; even if the road is "privately operated", it may still be owned by the airport, and so "subject to statutory authority". If so, RK liability would not apply, and happily the PPC has no powers to enforce any alleged byelaw breach, so ignoring would be best.

    To give an analogy, if a PPC (as distinct from a TOC) issued an invoice relating to a railway station car park, PoFA and RK liability would not apply, regardless of whether the driver/owner/RK had potentially committed an offence under railway byelaw 14.

    The same principle applies here.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    VCS has no bylaw to cover this, I know because there has been several tickets from there and they have all been the same, parking charge notices under contract law. I suggest you do search on here and pepipoo for this.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
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