Tax Rebate following SSP/JSA - now working

OriginalIndieChick

Hello everyone
I wonder if there is anyone who can advise as to my current situation and wherther I am entitled to a tax rebate.
From the end of March 2012, I was claiming Statutory Sick Pay as the basic rate. This continued until August 2012. I then resigned from work and received no income until mid November when I claimed Contribution based Job Seekers Allowance until 14 January 2014. From 14 January this year, I have been employed earning £250 per week (full time) and paying full tax and NI. Am I to expect any tax rebate for the money earned and tax paid since January.
Thanks very much
OIC

Horseunderwater

Until you get your P60 from your job and add in any JSA payments received along with your total income upto Aug when your SSP ended it is hard to know as you would have been getting Small rebates when your SSP was being paid as your employer would have adjusted your tax due each pay period. Once you have all those amounts to hand and have added it all up, if the gross figure comes to more than £8105 then you deduct the £8105 off the income and multiply that by 20% to give you the due tax and if that is less than you have paid then you would get the difference. And even better if you have earned less than the £8105 as you'd get it all back. But you will not be able to do it until you have that P60 in your paws. Once you have that then claim the tax rebate via form P50 or write a letter enclosing the P60 and stating your national insurance number and send it to the main address in Liverpool and they will send it to a local office to deal with it in due course. Oh and do keep a copy of the P60 as you only get one copy.

OriginalIndieChick

Thank you ever so much.
I have (very roughly) worked out that I got about £2000 SSP (and recall not paying any tax or NI from that), approx £650 JSA and have earned £2,800 to date from employment since January (paying £272.80 tax and £174.55 NI) amounting to £5418 in total that I have been paid from various sources this financial year. Does this mean I am likely to get the tax back which I have paid. Thanks again for your help.
OIC

Horseunderwater

Yes it does, but you will have to get the P60 first and if you google HMRC and rebates it will tell you how to do that.

OriginalIndieChick

That's great, thank you. I'll do that. I presume my current employer will provide me with a P60 detailing all that information. Will they have information about my SSP and JSA or will HMRC have that? I didn't get a P45 from my last job (very arsey when I left) and JSA didn't send me a P45 either so I did a P46 when I started work.
Again, thanks for your time. First time posting on here and very impressed with the quick repsonse.

Horseunderwater

The DWP should be able to send you a P45, this should have been sent to you - ring them up and ask for it to be sent as you never got one. Also your last employer has broken the law regarding not issuing a P45 out to you. They have one month to send it to, so report them to HMRC for not complying with HMRC PAYE regulations.

OriginalIndieChick

Thank you for the helpful advice :-)

Dazed_and_confused

Horseunderwater wrote: »

Until you get your P60 from your job and add in any JSA payments received along with your total income upto Aug when your SSP ended it is hard to know as you would have been getting Small rebates when your SSP was being paid as your employer would have adjusted your tax due each pay period. Once you have all those amounts to hand and have added it all up, if the gross figure comes to more than £8105 then you deduct the £8105 off the income and multiply that by 20% to give you the due tax and if that is less than you have paid then you would get the difference. And even better if you have earned less than the £8105 as you'd get it all back. But you will not be able to do it until you have that P60 in your paws. Once you have that then claim the tax rebate via form P50 or write a letter enclosing the P60 and stating your national insurance number and send it to the main address in Liverpool and they will send it to a local office to deal with it in due course. Oh and do keep a copy of the P60 as you only get one copy.

I would strongly advise against using a P50. As you will be claiming a refund after the tax year in question has finished you would just need to send a simple letter explaining what has happened during the year and enclosing your P60 and P45 (part 1a) from previous job and JSA claim. A P50 is totally wrong for OP's circumstances.

Dazed_and_confused

Horseunderwater wrote: »

The DWP should be able to send you a P45, this should have been sent to you - ring them up and ask for it to be sent as you never got one. Also your last employer has broken the law regarding not issuing a P45 out to you. They have one month to send it to, so report them to HMRC for not complying with HMRC PAYE regulations.

What are the HMRC PAYE regulations that the employer has not complied with?

Horseunderwater

Issuing a P45 to the OP. there is a legal obligation to do so - not only did I work for HMRC when it was plain old inland revenue I also trained as a wages clerk several years later and was given a book on the legal rules that the pay clerk has to comply with and that was definitely included. DWP also appear to have not complied in this instant either, but that may simply be because someone failed to tick a box on the screen record or it went astray in the post. Because if they are not doing that - then what other things are they not doing right? You'd be surprised at what does go on out in the real world of wages - I had one hell of a mess to sort out when I took over running my wages dept in 1999 and that was one of the things that was not being done properly.

OriginalIndieChick

Thanks everyone. I rang HMRC this morning and they have advised that they have all my details from this Tax year i.e. employment SSP, JSA and tax payments etc. from my current job since January 2013. They advised that they will automatically do the calculation and this will be refunded via my my current emplyment, should I be entitled to any. Hopefully, this means less work and hassle for me!! x