Is solar PV worth it?

EricMears

The_Green_Man wrote: »

An interesting analogy. I guess you used it because you feel you have a winning bet with your FITS.

The difference is that winning bets at a bookies are paid by other gambler's losing bets, people who have chosen to gamble. Your winning bet of FITS payments are taken from everyone without their consent.

The electricity company's terms & conditions are not "hidden". If you choose to buy electricity from them rather than generate your own you have consented to their T&Cs

The bookmaker analogy is often used in economics - it's reckoned to be easier for lower class folk to understand than the posh people's stockbroker experience (although in reality both are equaly valid economic models).

EricMears

The_Green_Man wrote: »

At least everyone benefits apart from a few middle class people with solar panels on their roof.

Questionable if anyone will 'benefit' from fracking or nuclear subsidies !

spgsc531

The_Green_Man wrote: »

Yes, from poor people. How do you sleep at night?

Actually, as explained, it comes from all electricity bills (of a massive amount of 1.6p a day).

But carry on with your delusional ranting.

Martyn1981

The_Green_Man wrote: »

At least everyone benefits apart from a few middle class people with solar panels on their roof.

So you are happy to pay subsidies to large companies. But you get upset paying them to your neighbours?

Mart.

tunnel

EricMears wrote: »

You wouldn't have seen my neighbour's house from a main road - we both live inside a wooded estate about half a mile from nearest road.

Eric,

I know exactly where it is,thats why i said a (spring)wood area,if i hadn't have explained to the wife that we would lose our FITs by moving,i could have very well been one of your neighbours too last year(not that you can see anyone in there).We decided to stay put instead and increase our solar capacity.

The_Green_Man_2

Martyn1981 wrote: »

So you are happy to pay subsidies to large companies. But you get upset paying them to your neighbours?

Mart.

I don't mind paying extra on my utility bills if that extra is used to secure energy supplies for the nation, and if it also helps utility companies offer lower prices to hard-pressed pensioners to avoid them freezing to death.

What I do object to is paying extra to subsidize a small number of middle class people's energy bills. I can't believe you don't see the difference.

The_Green_Man_2

spgsc531 wrote: »

Actually, as explained, it comes from all electricity bills (of a massive amount of 1.6p a day).

But carry on with your delusional ranting.

I don't care if it's an extra penny a day. Why on earth should everyone subsidize the energy bills of people who are more than financially capable of funding their own?

I'd much rather see that money go towards helping alleviate fuel poverty for the poorer sections of our community, rather than to a bunch of middle class householders.

spgsc531

The_Green_Man wrote: »

I don't care if it's an extra penny a day. Why on earth should everyone subsidize the energy bills of people who are more than financially capable of funding their own?

I'd much rather see that money go towards helping alleviate fuel poverty for the poorer sections of our community, rather than to a bunch of middle class householders.

I'm sure the Government nor many other people care that you don't care.

As I've already said:

spgsc531 wrote: »

But carry on with your delusional ranting.

The_Green_Man_2

I see that you're trying desperately to avoid the point I made. Pretty shabby debating technique and totally transparent.

Why not try and answer this: "Why on earth should everyone subsidize the energy bills of people who are more than financially capable of funding their own?"

Do you not agree with this: "I'd much rather see that money go towards helping alleviate fuel poverty for the poorer sections of our community, rather than to a bunch of middle class householders."?

EricMears

The_Green_Man wrote: »

Do you not agree with this: "I'd much rather see that money go towards helping alleviate fuel poverty for the poorer sections of our community, rather than to a bunch of middle class householders."?

Laudable as the concept may be, I'm afraid it wouldn't help to reduce the country's carbon emissions (indeed it would almost certainly increase them).

Nor would it help us to avoid the promised fines for ignoring EU policies (again it would make them more likely) which would have to be recouped from general taxation.

And why would your "bunch of middle class householders" bother to invest in measures to help out the government (and of course the taxpayers) without some incentive ?