Should fatties pay more to fly?

StevieJ

brook_son wrote: »

I suppose it also brings up that alcoholics, smokers, overweight etc should pay more for NHS.

Why? I thought they paid loads in extra taxes, and then there is the pension, aren't they supposed to die young?

ILW

brook_son wrote: »

I suppose it also brings up that alcoholics, smokers, overweight etc should pay more for NHS.

Smokers pay a rather large levy on cigarettes.

StevieJ

SingleSue wrote: »

My son has damage to his brain which means his metabolism/appetite control etc is damaged, this means that when he eats, the chemical that should be released is not, so it is pretty much all stored as fat, so no matter how careful he is with what he eats, it doesn't make a downwards difference to his weight.

Medical exemption card?

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

Smokers pay a rather large levy on cigarettes.

You a smoker?

ILW

StevieJ wrote: »

You a smoker?

Used to be.
Why do you ask?

MrsE_2

Is it weight or bulk though.
A man of 6 foot 2 who is musclar & weighs 15 stone won't be spilling from his seat.
A woman of 4 foot 10 who is 15 stone will.

Is it weight for weight or for bulk?

mcfisco

MrsE wrote: »

Is it weight or bulk though.
A man of 6 foot 2 who is musclar & weighs 15 stone won't be spilling from his seat.
A woman of 4 foot 10 who is 15 stone will.

Is it weight for weight or for bulk?

True, perhaps a tape measure around the widest part to calculate an individual passenger's girth would be better than scales?

EDIT: For Ryanair, this would be a cheap plastic patio chair located at the gate, if you can sit down and stand again without the chair getting up with you, you're good to go.

N1AK

lostinrates wrote: »

This is how I live, and its really not as simple as that. You suffer the impact of malnutrition even with supplementation. I fear greatly for my bone density, and take supplements. (Initially prescribes, now I sort it myself). It's very easy to get it unbalanced living this way.

It really IS as simple as that. There could be a condition that leads to that weight loss coming from bone, muscle or other mass than fat but you would lose weight (the only point I was making).

It's pointless trying to debate medical vs non-medical obesity because we're not doctors/nutritionists and even if we were we wouldn't have all the data needed to look at individual causes.

What is clear is that medical bodies overwhelming blame diet and lack of exercise for the level of obesity in this country. The US/Canada do not have sufficiently divergent genetics for it to be medical conditions that cause over twice the obesity in the US.

The Swiss have around 1/4 the number of obese people that the US has (around 1/3 of ours). It's not like they can't afford to eat...

lostinrates

N1AK wrote: »

It really IS as simple as that. There could be a condition that leads to that weight loss coming from bone, muscle or other mass than fat but you would lose weight (the only point I was making).

It's pointless trying to debate medical vs non-medical obesity because we're not doctors/nutritionists and even if we were we wouldn't have all the data needed to look at individual causes.

What is clear is that medical bodies overwhelming blame diet and lack of exercise for the level of obesity in this country. The US/Canada do not have sufficiently divergent genetics for it to be medical conditions that cause over twice the obesity in the US.

The Swiss have around 1/4 the number of obese people that the US has (around 1/3 of ours). It's not like they can't afford to eat...

I don't think I was clear.

It is almost always possible for people to lose weight.

However, it might not be any 'healthier' for them if they are one of the (very few) people with genuine health issues relating to weight. Long term costs for NHs might not benefit for example. I have several calorie restricted complicating issues, not least a further compromised basal metabolic rate so the problem gets further compounded. Fwiw, the hospital, when I was a long term inpatient in absolutely no control of intake also found this hard to manage and I gained weight there, my initial presenting symptoms included sudden rapid weight gain. I also agree, these people are a very, very small percentage of those who are overweight to any degree.

That doesn't mean I don't think people should not buy two seats on a plane, I do. Sometimes people get seat belt extenders given to them, perhaps that's the simplest point at which a charge should be made? If they cannot use the supplied seat belt then charge for the extender thingy ( not sure if it has a technical name)?

paul1964_2

Should skinny people pay more for hotel rooms?

We all know how expensive energy bills have become and one of the major expenses for a hotel is space heating.

Fat people have their own built in layer of insulation and generate more body heat, so require less room heating to feel comfortable. They are also more body-conscious, so tend to wear more clothes, whereas thin people like to show off their trim figure by wearing skimpy clothes.

Imagine being a fat person staying in a hotel knowing that your bill is unnecessarily high because the hotel has to heat the rooms to an excessive level due to the needs of some scrawny streak of p!!! swanning around in a skimpy top.

Obviously, thin people should pay a hotel surcharge due to their excessive heating needs. Maybe hotels should have coin-operated heaters is the bedrooms so that stick insects pay their fair share.

Perhaps hotel receptions should have thermometers to test the skin temperature of guests before they check in and surcharge any bag of bones that doesn't meet the desired level.

Thin people really get my goat. Grrrrrr.