Parking Charge Notice Outstanding CMS UK Ltd

spacey2012

Unless you are 100% serious about suing the land owner I would not bother rattling .
They get a cut, they are in on he scam and they will just pass it on to the parking scammers informing them that you are peeing them off and to deal with it.
They will know they have a bite on the Hook.
Part of this scam is to anger you in to trying to get back at them.
All proven tactics

Coupon-mad

spacey2012 wrote: »

Unless you are 100% serious about suing the land owner I would not bother..

I would bother. It works to send a Letter Before Action to a Retail or other Park:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4244645

and I have had a pm from another poster who used the same tactic successfully since then as well. Both female posters with disabled relatives and a lot on their plate who would most probably NOT have claimed in Court, but were happy to fire off an LBA to make the Park owners jump.


I just posted this for you MGRNE on the thread you first posted on:

Coupon-mad wrote: »

They already knew you were disabled visitors from the disabled VFL and then you also told them in November about the disability as well. So the PPC are breaking the Equality Act 2010 now to harass you over this null and void 'contract' allegation.

It drives me MAD that all the PPCs are currently using and abusing the irrelevant Blue Badge scheme to threaten disabled visitors like this! And the only publicity that gets into the papers is b*llcks about 'bay abuse' where DMUK have got their friends to take pics of...cars without a Blue Badge. !!!!!!! :mad:

You have probably seen my posts on this encouraging people to complain. The easiest way to find out who runs a retail or visitor park that I have found works almost every time is to Google the park name and read any newspaper articles or trade articles. They always mention who has bought the park or runs it. Or look on the actual website of the park itself, under the 'contact us' information if there is such a page.

Also, if you appealed in November, did they never send a rejection with a POPLA code?

If they didn't then they have breached the BPA Code of Practice as well and I would complain to the DVLA about this because they presumably got the registered keeper's datas AFTER the driver had appealed and said he/she had a disability or disabled passenger. If that's the case then they did NOT have reasonable cause to get the data.

Complain to [EMAIL="FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk"]FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL] that this frm had no reasonable cause to get the data after being told in an appeal that the visitors were disabled. There was NO CONTRACT to pursue after that, under the Equality Act 2010 they then knew you were legally allowed to park there - which trumps their misleading signage. Ask as well, what the date of the request was on your vehicle and who by. Make sure they know this is NOT a case where you should pay for the info nor fill in a V888 - tell them they are wrong and that this is your own vehicle and a complaint, if the DVLA respond as such.

...and complain very strongly to Robin Park as well, once you have done some online digging to find out who runs it. See some of my recent posts about what I would say - a Letter before Action threatening Court may be needed to get this stupid thing cancelled and to alert them to the issue.

HTH

Half_way

bondy_lad wrote: »

why bother its just a SCAM as the ticket/invoice is FAKE ,,but its up to you,,only a PENALTY charge notice is genuine, you have the FAKE one,a PRKING charge notice=fake/scam/con/fiddle=loo paper.jobs a belter then.

Why bother?? Unfortunalty alot of people in a case simalar to the OPs will feel threatened, intimidated, worried and so on, some may even loose sleep over it, some will suffer health wise due to stress, and will pay up, despite the fact that they can hardly afford it/cant realy afford it.
Retail parks who employ/allow these PPCs to opperate on their land as their representatives should know full well what they are getting into bed with and in my opinion they are no better, if not worse than the worst of the PPCs

As for car parks stuck into a long winded contract with aPPC, there are solutions such as ejecting the PPC foot soldier form the land, and as for camera controled car parks this could be acheived with a long pole


or something like this with some careful sign positioning

MGRNE

I've had a reply this morning from Completely Retail who inform me they are not affiliated in any way to the landowner - they're just a shops to let website. I've e-mailed a local newspaper to ask if they have the landowners details. Has anyone else got a contact please?

nigelbb

MGRNE wrote: »

I've had a reply this morning from Completely Retail who inform me they are not affiliated in any way to the landowner - they're just a shops to let website. I've e-mailed a local newspaper to ask if they have the landowners details. Has anyone else got a contact please?

From some quick Googling I am lead to believe that it's managed by Curson Sowerby Partners Ltd http://www.cspretail.com/index.php?p=viewScheme&id=3498 & owned by PRUPIM (Prudential Property Investment Managers Ltd) http://www.prupim.com/

trisontana

So Prudential are the land owners and they are the only ones who claim for any "loss" that's been suffered, not the PPC or the managing agents.

MGRNE

Thanks nigelbb have e-mailed both will let you know the outcome

MGRNE

Well we didn't get a reply from either landlords or agents - now have 7 days to pay £140 or we in court lol!!! I'll keep you posted

fil_cad

CMS dont do court there just trying it on praying your a soft touch.:money:

bovisand100

Anybody know the outcome of this thread.

Re my ticket from CMS:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4823585