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Would you knock on the door ?

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  • Kynthia
    Kynthia Posts: 5,692 Forumite
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    I wouldn't knock on the door. If I was seriously interested then I would contact the estate agent and insist the vendor was present for the second viewing to answer questions about the property. That way the vendor only has to deal with an interested buyer instead of everyone who happens to view.
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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 24 March 2013 at 11:44AM
    It's not some of us being "precious" Dan Dan. Its just some people have a different way of living and/or expectations from a more "normal" (as I would call it) housebuying era.

    I do sometimes think there are very distinct generational "ways of thinking" too and you don't know the agegroup of this vendor (within each generation there will be several very different ways of thinking - but we would probably understand pretty easily one of these other "strands of thinking" than we would that of someone from a different generation). We have just had such different life experiences and lived in such a different "world" that a way of thinking that we know is a norm may not be to a different generation to our own (I've only got to check out my own parents thinking/views on anything and we might as well come from a different planet....:rotfl:).

    I think many people in a younger generation possibly take for granted a loss of privacy that is perceived as totally horrendous by many of an older generation. Remember too that recent debate on Sunday viewing - to me (middle-aged and more provincial area of country it's obvious to me that I would check if thats okay and not take umbrage if it wasnt). A younger person in a more urban environment might not even think of it and feel "Everyone darn well SHOULD be available then and blow them if they arent" and not realise why they had just upset someone from a more "private" setting...

    EDIT: anyone who "insisted" on a vendor being present for a second viewing would have just put the back straight up of a more "private" person and would possibly find they had lost the house they say they wanted to buy. Yes...I know...I know....there are a group of people who would say "They do want to sell dont they?..." but there are some of us who don't believe money is the be-all and end-all of life and simply won't give money a higher priority in our life to suit someone else and being forced to give way to someone who shows clear signs of "wanting their own way regardless of anyone else..." at the outset is not a promising start for presenting as a reasonable person (it would just get translated in our minds as "Whoops...they are selfish arent they!").
  • Dan-Dan
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    We know its a young family who send there little one to the same nursery our youngest went to a year or so back (we saw the back pack they use!), and we saw the pictures on the wall etc so we know its a family probably younger than us (mid 30`s)

    To be honest , if done tactfully and respectfully i cannot see the problem with attempting to get ahead , or at least get the info required direct from the vendor to help with any possible offer

    If we cant get a straight answer and feel fobbed off , then we will look elswhere , its that simple

    Its a buyers market and i would think this is in the minds of a young family attempting to move on
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  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    edited 24 March 2013 at 11:55AM
    It's not some of us being "precious" Dan Dan. Its just some people have a different way of living and/or expectations from a more "normal" (as I would call it) housebuying era.

    I do sometimes think there are very distinct generational "ways of thinking" too and you don't know the agegroup of this vendor (within each generation there will be several very different ways of thinking - but we would probably understand pretty easily one of these other "strands of thinking" than we would that of someone from a different generation). We have just had such different life experiences and lived in such a different "world" that a way of thinking that we know is a norm may not be to a different generation to our own (I've only got to check out my own parents thinking/views on anything and we might as well come from a different planet....:rotfl:).

    I think many people in a younger generation possibly take for granted a loss of privacy that is perceived as totally horrendous by many of an older generation. Remember too that recent debate on Sunday viewing - to me (middle-aged and more provincial area of country it's obvious to me that I would check if thats okay and not take umbrage if it wasnt). A younger person in a more urban environment might not even think of it and feel "Everyone darn well SHOULD be available then and blow them if they arent" and not realise why they had just upset someone from a more "private" setting...

    I understand that everyone has different ideas of privacy, but if you want to sell your house surely you should be prepared to put yourself out a little bit? Obviously sellers might want to ask questions.

    I'm not saying be available for every viewing (that's what the estate agent is for), but surely if someone put a note through the door with a question it's not beyond someone to ring them or send an e-mail with the reply?

    (I am of the 'older' generation).
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  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    Dan-Dan wrote: »
    Errr , excuse me ?
    The vendor says its THEIR policy to ask the vendors to leave , so actually we dont know what the vendors think about it

    I think you mean the EA says it's their policy .. ?

    Yes, we don't actually know, which is why I posed a question to you, and didn't make a statement, as in

    "What if the owner hired the EA specifically because of their policy .... don't want any contact with their buyers?"
  • Extraordinary replies IMHO. Unless its going cheap. I AM THE POTENTIAL BUYERS HANDING OVER THOUSANDS. I AM THE ONE DOING THE BUYING IF YOU WISH TO SELL. I HOLD THE CARDS.

    I do agree knocking on the door is bad practice however if I really wanted to meet the vendors I would INSIST the estate agents set up a meeting between ourselves and if they declined I would pull out and put a note through the sellers letter box to explain why.
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  • ..and the vendor would think "Whew...had a lucky escape there from someone like that. Goodness only knows what further terms they might have tried to dictate further on in the process". Would you want vendors thinking "This is someone who wants to ride roughshod over us...blow us...I'm just a little cypher to them and not a human being?"
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    EDIT: anyone who "insisted" on a vendor being present for a second viewing would have just put the back straight up of a more "private" person and would possibly find they had lost the house they say they wanted to buy. Yes...I know...I know....there are a group of people who would say "They do want to sell dont they?..." but there are some of us who don't believe money is the be-all and end-all of life and simply won't give money a higher priority in our life to suit someone else and being forced to give way to someone who shows clear signs of "wanting their own way regardless of anyone else..." at the outset is not a promising start for presenting as a reasonable person (it would just get translated in our minds as "Whoops...they are selfish arent they!").

    Well then, you would just lose your sale. Does it matter whether you like the buyers or not? They are just about to fork out £1000s, obviously they want to be absolutely sure what they are buying and you should be prepared to put yourself out a bit to answer their questions. It doesn't have to be on Sunday at breakfast time, it could be to a time of your choosing. But I do think you should meet them halfway. IMHO, anyway
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  • Halfway - as in at the estate agents office only and with them present and answering non-personal questions only? (ie just about the house itself and how the selling process of ours is going and how the buying process of the one we are getting is going). With the estate agent ready to step in the second they started asking questions designed to elicit how desperate or otherwise we are to sell or anything about the neighbours/neighbourhood (because that is not under our control - therefore not a fair question for us to be asked).

    I think some of us would be prepared to meet on neutral territory only and answer neutral (house-centred only) questions. Quite happy to say when the boiler or roof got replaced and provide proof of that for instance...
  • phoebe1989seb
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    Personally I'd opt for the note-through-the-door strategy if I was in the OP's position.

    When we sold our last-but-one house it was our EA's policy to do the viewings and for us as vendors to not be present. We were happy with this, but equally wouldn't have minded being there if need be. As it turned out when the couple that eventually bought our house viewed, they had some questions that the EA was unable to answer so he called me and asked if I'd mind popping home to meet them which I did.

    As soon as I arrived he asked if I required him to be present to which I responded in the negative. The couple asked a few questions then stated their intention to make an offer straight away - they were cash-buyers on a house priced at £600k so I was more than happy to oblige :D We even exchanged email details - something I'd no longer recommend, having been on the end of a barrage of texts when we gave a more recent buyer a mobile number :o

    It was only after the couple had left that I realised who the guy was (I'd recognised him immediately) - a quick search on Google confirmed my suspicions.......but that's another story, as they say ;)
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