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Choosing a S&S ISA fund
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This thread is interesting, I have been passive investing in a tracker for some years but I am considering being more active. Subscribed.0
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If you choose 4 funds on HL watch out for the platform fees. HL charge £2 per month platform fee for many of their funds that have the lowest charges, such as index funds. So with 4 funds you'd be paying £8 per month to HL or buying into funds which levy much higher charges. Higher charges means potentially less growth in your investment.
A way that some folks get round this is by holding one of the Vanguard lifestrategy index funds - this way you can get exposure to different sectors (UK, USA, EU, emerging markets, etc) all in one very low cost fund and only pay £2 per month to HL for having one fund. Vanguard do a range of lifestrategy funds with differing equity/bond ratios, so allowing you to choose one that fits best to your risk tolerance.
Not a single one of the funds I've chosen has a monthly fee.
But you are right, as I've mentioned before some of the funds do have fees on their platform, I've noticed it to be mainly trackers. I still hold 2 trackers without fees though.
It is important to do a research and see what one might want to invest in before deciding on a platform. Better then be caught up later on in the investing life (though sometimes you just cannot avoid it, like when provider decides to change terms suddenly or new legislation!)0 -
I'm with TD Direct Investing. Most funds can be invested in for free and as long as you are regularly trading or have a minimum amount of £5,100 in there, there are no ISA charges. If you set up a regular investment, there are no charges:
http://www.tddirectinvesting.co.uk/choose-an-account/~/media/uk/pdf/rates-charges-upcoming.ashx0 -
Many funds have a minimum of £500 (£50 with monthly payments) but the minimum for transfer is £250 so you could put in £500 into one and transfer £250 of it to another if you really wanted to
Or setup a DD at £50pm and change the fund after 1 month. That then brings the minimum down to £50. I wouldn't necessarily advocate a huge number of funds with only £50 in but it could be one way to get some balance when your portfolio is small. Remember the £2pm platform charge on HL though. In 12 months you'd lose virtually half (£24) your £50 investment if it was invested in a fund that they levy the platform charge on.
After 2 years (and assuming no growth) you'd only have £2 of your original £50 left and on month 25 your final £2 would be taken as the platform fee so be careful with your fund choice if you go down that route as it could be a surefire way to lose your money!Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.0 -
it can't be worth paying a £24 per year platform fee unless you've got at least several thousand in a fund. there are alternative funds available with a higher TER but no platform fee. when you've got enough in each fund for it to make sense, you can then switch to the lower TER fund with a platform fee. simple!0
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grey_gym_sock wrote: »it can't be worth paying a £24 per year platform fee unless you've got at least several thousand in a fund. there are alternative funds available with a higher TER but no platform fee. when you've got enough in each fund for it to make sense, you can then switch to the lower TER fund with a platform fee. simple!
Absolutely. But I thought it worth warning as it could be quite easy to make a mistake and then find you are paying massive charges.Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.0 -
grey_gym_sock wrote: »it can't be worth paying a £24 per year platform fee unless you've got at least several thousand in a fund. there are alternative funds available with a higher TER but no platform fee. when you've got enough in each fund for it to make sense, you can then switch to the lower TER fund with a platform fee. simple!
Completely agree.
HSBC trackers have £2 a month platform fee on HL.
I bought into BlackRock with good record and no fee, slightly higher TER.
Given my £50 a month going into it, the higher TER is in fact much lower fee then the £24 a year!
One just has to read what one is buying into!
And it's not just the monthly platform fees, but also the % payable on buying "into" the fund. I've never yet paid any upfront costs in my ISA, though I know people who regularly do!0
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