CMS uk @ robin park, wigan.

esmerobbo

Seem to remember UKCPS were kicked off that retail park for aggressive ticketing, seems CMS are trying to follow them!

frank163

I have just recieved another letter from CMS, exactly the same as the one dated 23/02/2013 (see post#1).
I've put it with the others.
I'll keep you posted on developements as and when.
I've been in contact with the DVLA, BPA and trading standards thanks to guidance from here.
BPA replied, although we cannot tell them to cancel your charge you should recieve a POPLA form within 3 days from them.
Obviously someone hadn't read the original notice date.

frank163

Victory,
just got an e-mail off the AOS investigations team following my whinge about CMS.
They have liased with the scammer (operator) and the notice has been cancelled.
Thanks to all here for your help.

hoohoo

Nice! Thanks for posting back to let us know the result.

MGRNE

My husband received a parking fine on Robin Retail Park Wigan last November and we thought we'd successfully ignored this until this week and have now received a reminder notice (after three months!!)

We've no intention of paying this but wondered whether to completely ignore or respond to the appeal process.

My husband has a blue badge but didn't display in a disabled bay (road tax disc shows disabled class!!) We e-mailed the same day to say we had a badge but then received a letter saying "you may have a badge but it wasn't displayed - pay up or else!!" They offered the POPLA appeal process but I just wrote to them again and sent a copy of the blue badge) That was November 2012 and heard nothing til this week.

Who is the landowner who I would complain to - have seen the postings particularly in relation to disability - so intend using this as the basis of a very strong complaint. Should we appeal as well?

Thanks for your help

Stroma

Please post a new thread about your situation below, we try and keep one incident to one thread. thanks

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

Guys_Dad

MGRNE wrote: »

My husband received a parking fine on Robin Retail Park Wigan last November and we thought we'd successfully ignored this until this week and have now received a reminder notice (after three months!!)

We've no intention of paying this but wondered whether to completely ignore or respond to the appeal process.

My husband has a blue badge but didn't display in a disabled bay (road tax disc shows disabled class!!) We e-mailed the same day to say we had a badge but then received a letter saying "you may have a badge but it wasn't displayed - pay up or else!!" They offered the POPLA appeal process but I just wrote to them again and sent a copy of the blue badge) That was November 2012 and heard nothing til this week.

Who is the landowner who I would complain to - have seen the postings particularly in relation to disability - so intend using this as the basis of a very strong complaint. Should we appeal as well?

Thanks for your help

Don't waste any more time. Ask for a POPLA code and put in an appeal.

The appeal is simple. You don't mention forgetting to put up any blue badge. You quote the BPA COP http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/BPA_CodeofPractice_2013_v1.pdf section headed "Disabled", in particular

16.3 Operators of off-street car parks do not have to
recognise the Blue Badge scheme. But many choose to
do so to meet their obligations under the Equality Act.
Although a Blue Badge is not issued to all disabled people
it is issued to those with mobility problems. So it is a
good way for parking operators to identify people who
need special parking provision.

You point out to POPLA that your car has a Road Fund Licence that identifies you as a disabled driver which to any trained operative is a form of disabled badge, obviously attaching a copy of your Car Tax and Blue Badge, drawing POPLAs attention to 16.3 above

Then smile when you realise it has cost the PPC £30 to lose a judgement and provide Aaron Aardvark with another POPLA success.

Coupon-mad

They already knew you were disabled visitors from the disabled VFL and then you also told them in November about the disability as well. So the PPC are breaking the Equality Act 2010 now to harass you over this null and void 'contract' allegation.

It drives me MAD that all the PPCs are currently using and abusing the irrelevant Blue Badge scheme to threaten disabled visitors like this! And the only publicity that gets into the papers is b*llcks about 'bay abuse' where DMUK have got their friends to take pics of...cars without a Blue Badge. !!!!!!! :mad:

You have probably seen my posts on this encouraging people to complain. The easiest way to find out who runs a retail or visitor park that I have found works almost every time is to Google the park name and read any newspaper articles or trade articles. They always mention who has bought the park or runs it. Or look on the actual website of the park itself, under the 'contact us' information if there is such a page.

Also, if you appealed in November, did they never send a rejection with a POPLA code?

If they didn't then they have breached the BPA Code of Practice as well and I would complain to the DVLA about this because they presumably got the registered keeper's datas AFTER the driver had appealed and said he/she had a disability or disabled passenger. If that's the case then they did NOT have reasonable cause to get the data.

Complain to [EMAIL="FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk"]FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL] that this frm had no reasonable cause to get the data after being told in an appeal that the visitors were disabled. There was NO CONTRACT to pursue after that, under the Equality Act 2010 they then knew you were legally allowed to park there - which trumps their misleading signage. Ask as well, what the date of the request was on your vehicle and who by. Make sure they know this is NOT a case where you should pay for the info nor fill in a V888 - tell them they are wrong and that this is your own vehicle and a complaint, if the DVLA respond as such.

...and complain very strongly to Robin Park as well, once you have done some online digging to find out who runs it. See some of my recent posts about what I would say - a Letter before Action threatening Court may be needed to get this stupid thing cancelled and to alert them to the issue.

Stroma

He's created a thread about it
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4514259