Floor mounted boiler needs replacing. **UPDATED WITH QUOTES**

diywhynot

Leif wrote: »

Mind you, from conversations I've had with those in the trade, being approved is sometimes/always no more than a money making scheme, presumably the installer pays the manufacturer to be on the scheme.

Incorrect. E.g. In case of Vaillant, attend products courses then become Advance installer at no charge.

Leif

diywhynot wrote: »

Incorrect. E.g. In case of Vaillant, attend products courses then become Advance installer at no charge.

Not incorrect. What I said is true for one manufacturer. But it is reassuring to hear that is not the case for Vaillant.

Mr_Ted

Leif wrote: »

Not incorrect. What I said is true for one manufacturer. But it is reassuring to hear that is not the case for Vaillant.

:eek: Not so at all!

All manufacturers courses or qualifications are only additional knowledge to get manufacturers approvals for their equipment

GSR for RGI's is the only specified legal requirement:)

diywhynot

Leif wrote: »

Not incorrect. What I said is true for one manufacturer.

For benefit of all, which boiler manufacturer would that be?

Tia

ValHaller

Brallaqueen wrote: »

This part is no longer manufactured so the whole thing will need replacing and I have been saving up for this over the winter.

Brallaqueen wrote: »

just to add that the chap who said it was safe to use is a british gas man so is registered gas safe.

Thank you for the link to the spares but that part doesn't fit - already tried. My boiler needs a valve with the connectors on the bottom which is the discontinued version.

What is the source of your information that the part is no longer available? If it was BG, then I believe that you would still be in with a chance

Mr_Ted

Brallaqueen wrote: »

Thank you for the link to the spares but that part doesn't fit - already tried. My boiler needs a valve with the connectors on the bottom which is the discontinued version.

Inlet connections can be adapted to suit possibly, just by a slight minimal pipework alteration?

diywhynot

diywhynot wrote: »

For benefit of all, which boiler manufacturer would that be?

Tia

No chance of an answer then Leif?

diywhynot

Op: how are you getting on with the quotes?

Radio silence from Leif.;)

Brallaqueen

diywhynot wrote: »

Op: how are you getting on with the quotes?

Radio silence from Leif.;)

thank you for your comment - I've gopt the quotes in and they are a bit confusing. I'd appreciate any input from the forum. All prices inc VAT. Flat is 1960s 2 bed 1 bath.

quote 1 - 3096.00
install one vaillant 824 he ecotec boiler (7 yr warranty), timer, digi thermostat, descaler unit and all necessary connections. flush system and add inhibitor, run condense line to nearest drain, gas line to run in 22m from nearest point to boiler, brick up existing flue hole, all redundant materials to be taken away.

quote 2 - 2452.80
install 24kw Ideal logic plus boiler, 2 x TRVs clean system with a main flush, incl magnetic filer, remove cylinder and tanks

quote 3 - 2160.00
supply and install Vaillant Ecotec Pro 24 (5 yr warranty), new programmable room thermostat, convert existing system to suit new boiler, fully flush system, remove old pipework, boiler etc, carry out any pipework and electrical alterations reqd, carry out any making good work reqd with matching bricks, remove all rubbish from site, one year guarantee.

quote 4 - 2200 or 1900 if I pay cash in hand
remove old boiler and cylinder, dispose of safely, fit Worcester 24i junior boiler and wireless programmer, Flush system and fit limelighter to new system, upgrade gas supply from 15mm to 22mm pipe, Supply and fit 5 new thermo radiator valves
Commission and test system, Brick up and make good old flue.

diywhynot

Difficult to compare as they are nor like for like i.e.
1. Magnetic filter inc? What brand?
2. Not all include TRVS or differ in number.
3. Make of controls?
4. Length of warranty?
5. Is the flush a powerflush, mains flush?
6. Disposal of waste?
7. Scale inhibitor device?
8. Notification to Building control?
9. Condensate waste? To where?
10. Completing Benchmark?
11. Upsizing gas supply?

Would recommend Vaillant over the other 2, and the Vaillant Plus over the Pro (Quotes 1 and 3). Avoid the cash in hand Quote 4....avoiding the tax man perhaps?

Have any of the RGIs been recommended to you? Did they test mains flow and pressure?