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POPLA Decisions

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  • Smii
    Smii Posts: 18 Forumite
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    Newquay Airport / Initial Parking (Cornwall Council)

    Decision: Successful

    Initial Parking withdrew before the POPLA appeal took place, and cancelled the PCN. Details in the thread: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6635246/newquay-airport-parking-popla-appeal/p1
    Appealed on the grounds that the NTK was not POFA compliant because the carpark is on airport land and is therefore not relevant land.
  • broomy23
    broomy23 Posts: 16 Forumite
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    edited 18 November at 1:16PM
    POPLA are not interested in the high court injunction cited by MET in relation to Stansted Airport. 

    Decision
    Successful
    Assessor Name
    Natalie Matthews
    Assessor summary of operator case

    The operator has issued the parking charge notice (PCN) as they never paid for parking or remained for longer than authorised. 

    Assessor summary of your case

    The appellant has provided a detailed account of events. For the purpose of my report, I have summarised the grounds into the following points and have checked each point before coming to my conclusion. The appellant says that: • The car park falls within the Stansted Airport Bylaws Boundary Airports Act 1986 and is governed by airport byelaws and is not relevant land and does not fall under Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012. • The appellant reiterated their version of events in the motorist’s comments section and added that the evidence the operator have included is of a court injunction, with the map where protestors are not permitted to protest. This is not an accurate reflection of the airport boundary map. The appellant included photographic evidence of the airport boundary (times three) in support of their appeal. I have considered this in my decision. 

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    In this case, it is not clear who the driver of the appellant’s vehicle is, so I must consider the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012, as the operator issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to the keeper of the vehicle. The operator has provided me with a copy of the notice to keeper sent to the appellant. I have reviewed the notice to keeper against the relevant sections of PoFA 2012 and I am satisfied that it is compliant. I will therefore be assessing the appellant’s liability as the keeper of the vehicle. I have allowed the PCN for the following reason: By issuing the appellant with a PCN, the operator has implied that the appellant has not complied with the terms and conditions of the car park in question. The burden of proof lies with the operator to provide POPLA with clear, sufficient evidence to demonstrate that the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) has been issued correctly. In this case, the operator has issued the PCN as the driver was not authorised to park on site. After very careful consideration of the appellant's grounds of appeal and photographic evidence and the operator's case file I can see the appellant states they are the registered keeper and will not divulge who the driver was on the date in question. The appellant states the car park is not relevant land and falls under the boundary for Stanstead Airport which means POFA is not applicable. POFA is a law that allows parking operators to transfer the liability to the registered keeper in the event that the driver or hirer is not identified. However, POFA does not apply to land that is not relevant, like airports. The appellant included a copy of the site map from the Stanstead website, which proves Stanstead Airport boundary includes Southgate car park. However, the operator have included a map which has been drawn up due to a High Court injunction preventing protestors from protesting on airport land. In this map, Southgate car park is not included in the boundary for Stanstead Airport. After reviewing the evidence provided by both parties, I can see that the High Court injunction map is the area where protestors are not permitted to protest, and this does not necessarily mean that is the Stanstead Boundary. In contrast the appellant's photographic evidence of the Stanstead boundary is taken directly from the Stanstead Airport website, and it would be safe to say, on the balance of probabilities that the evidence available on Stanstead Airport’s own website would be considered the more accurate site boundary. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the Southgate car park falls on relevant land, and as such, the liability can’t be transferred to the registered keeper. Therefore, on the balance of probabilities I feel this PCN was issued incorrectly. In conclusion, I can see that the appellant has referenced other points within their appeal to POPLA, but I do not feel that these need to be reviewed based on the outcome reached. Overall, I am not satisfied that the charge has been issued correctly, therefore I must allow this appeal.

  • Le_Kirk
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    broomy23 said:
    POPLA are not interested in the high court injection cited by MET in relation to Stansted Airport. 
    Well done on the win but should that be injunction?  Mind you wouldn't mind if PPCs had an injection!
  • Umkomaas
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    After reviewing the evidence provided by both parties, I can see that the High Court injunction map is the area where protestors are not permitted to protest, and this does not necessarily mean that is the Stanstead Boundary. In contrast the appellant's photographic evidence of the Stanstead boundary is taken directly from the Stanstead Airport website, and it would be safe to say, on the balance of probabilities that the evidence available on Stanstead Airport’s own website would be considered the more accurate site boundary. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the Southgate car park falls on relevant land, and as such, the liability can’t be transferred to the registered keeper. Therefore, on the balance of probabilities I feel this PCN was issued incorrectly.
    Haha. Well done Assessor Natalie in not being hoodwinked by MET bullshot!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • doubledotcom
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    It's only POPLA. As you have found out, the quality of assessment leaves much to be desired. A moronic and intellectually malnourished POPLA assessor if not worth getting all get up about. Their decision is not binding on you and you DO NOT pay the charge.

    You can waste some time making a formal complaint to POPLA but they will never change the decision, even if the bleedin' obvious is staring them in the face. However, it is often worth it, just for the record, to prove their incompetence snd when they are replaced eventually, it will not be a moment too soon.
  • DE_612183
    DE_612183 Posts: 4,074 Forumite
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    Once again as @Coupon-mad has stated previously - Female reviewer = common sense, Male reviewer = DH.
  • FollyT
    FollyT Posts: 13 Forumite
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    I have also started a thread about this PCN at 
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6645132/total-parking-solutions-pcn-appeal-rejected-at-popla-confused-about-ntk#latest

    POPLA assessment and decision
    08/12/2025
    Verication Code:
    8412665011
    PARKING CHARGE NUMBER: HT3766031 

    Decision Unsuccessful

    Assessor Name Lyndsey Howgate

    Assessor summary of operator case
    The parking operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) due to being parked in a hatched
    area.

    Assessor summary of your case

    The appellant has provided a detailed account surrounding the parking event in question. For the purpose of my report, I have summarised the grounds raised into the points below:

     •The appellant advises they are appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle and not the driver.

    •The appellant advises a compliant notice to keeper was not served.

    •The appellant advises the parking operator has not shown the individual who it is pursuing was the driver.

    •The appellant advises no evidence of
    landowner authority.

    •The appellant advises the signs were not prominent, clear or legible.

    The appellant has provided: •A copy of their grounds of appeal.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    When assessing an appeal POPLA considers if the operator has issued the parking charge notice correctly and if the driver has complied with the terms and conditions for the use of the car park. The registered keeper of the vehicle has raised the appeal; I will be referring to them as the appellant throughout my report.

    The parking operator has provided a copy of the car park site map indicating where signage is located within the car park and time dated photographs of the signage within the
    car park which advises no parking on yellow lines, white lines, hatched lines or approaches to to crossing/junction access, pay on exit, taris available, payment methods available and failure to comply will result in a £70 PCN being issued. The parking operator has also supplied images obtained from the parking attendant showing the vehicle parked within a hatched area.

    The appellant advises they are appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle and not the driver. The appellant advises a compliant notice to keeper was not served. The appellant advises the parking operator has not shown the individual who it is pursuing was the driver. The government created the Protection of
    Freedoms Act 2012 to allow a parking operator to hold the keeper of a vehicle liable for a PCN if it
    does not know who the driver is. It also gives the keeper of a vehicle the chance to name the driver if they do not want to be held liable for the PCN. A keeper of a vehicle is a person who is registered with the DVLA as owning the vehicle. I note in this instance, the PCN was axed to the vehicle on the day it was issued. The parking operator advises that the appellant made contact prior to details being
    obtained from the DVLA conrming that they were the registered keeper of the vehicle. I am satised that the PCN was axed to the vehicle and as no driver details were supplied, the parking operator has acted in accordance with the requirements of PoFA 2012 regarding requesting payment of the PCN from the keeper of the vehicle.

    The appellant advises no evidence of landowner authority. On many car parks, a parking operator acts on behalf of a landowner. I have reviewed a copy of a witness statement dated 11 March 2016, which conrms that the parking operator does have authority to manage the car park, which would include collecting payment for any breaches of terms and conditions of use of the private land. The appellant had not provided any evidence to suggest that the parking operator does not have the landowner’s authority to manage the land and therefore I must be satised that the parking operator does have the authority to issue PCN’s to motorist who breach any terms and conditions of use of private land/car park.

    The appellant advises the signs were
    not prominent, clear or legible. Due to the appellants grounds of appeal, I have reviewed this sectors
    Code of Practice which was jointly created by the British Parking Association (BPA) and the
    International Parking Community (IPC). It is largely based on the Government’s Private Parking Code
    of Practice, which was published in February 2022, and subsequently withdrawn in June 2022. The new Code came into force on the 1 October 2024. The Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice
    (The Code) sets the standards its parking operators need to comply with. Section 3.1.1 of The Code
    states that there must be an entrance sign displayed and maintained at the entrance to the site, to inform drivers whether parking is permitted subject to terms and conditions or prohibited. Section 3.1.3 of The Code contains the requirements for signs displaying the terms and conditions. The signs
    must be placed throughout the site, so that drivers have the opportunity to read them when parking or leaving their vehicle. The terms and conditions must be clear and unambiguous, using a font and
    contrast that is be conspicuous and legible. I have reviewed the car park site map indicating where signage is located and photographs of signage within the area provided by the parking operator and I am satised that there is ample, clear signage throughout to advise all motorist of the terms and conditions of use of the private land. POPLA’s role is to assess if the operator has issued the charge iaccordance with the conditions of the contract. As the terms and conditions of the car park have not been met, due to being parked in a hatched area, I conclude that the operator has issued the parking charge correctly, and the appeal is refused

  • doubledotcom
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    If you ever need evidence that POPLA assessors are, in general, utter morons and intellectually malnourished, you only have to read this bit:
    The government created the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to allow a parking operator to hold the keeper of a vehicle liable for a PCN if it does not know who the driver is. It also gives the keeper of a vehicle the chance to name the driver if they do not want to be held liable for the PCN.

    A keeper of a vehicle is a person who is registered with the DVLA as owning the vehicle. I note in this instance, the PCN was axed [sic?] to the vehicle on the day it was issued. The parking operator advises that the appellant made contact prior to details being 
    obtained from the DVLA conrming that they were the registered keeper of the vehicle. I am satised [sic] that the PCN was axed [sic] to the vehicle and as no driver details were supplied, the parking operator has acted in accordance with the requirements of PoFA 2012 regarding requesting payment of the PCN from the keeper of the vehicle.
    Retraining for this assessor would not be suitable. A career change is better advised.

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 8 December at 6:32PM
    Big (and very basic) mistake by a supposed trained Assessor. Looks like a newbie but no excuse. Appalling misinterpretation. They only have ONE schedule of one law to understand.

    Sigh...
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