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Hi,
below is my POPLA decision which got refused
The appellant has raised the following points from their grounds of appeal. • They wanted to use the car park as they were meeting a friend, they read the signage, a few times as it was unclear if anyone could park and pay, or if it was for patrons of the church only. • The signage states tariffs, and underneath church patrons need to register their vehicle. • They thought anyone must be able to park, but church patrons can register. • They called the number on the signage as there was no option to pay at the site. • During the phone call they were told the location was invalid. • They entered the location number correctly a few times, with the same message. • They were told payment was not accepted at this time. • The church was closed, them and a women said not to park, they went back to their car and left the site. • They were in the car park for 10 minute trying numerous ways to pay. • There should be an allowance for people to walk up to signs and reading. • The parking operator is trying to charge £100 for 10 minutes, which is shocking, when it is impossible to pay. The appellant has provided a phone call, and screen shot from their mobile app as evidence to support their appeal. The above evidence will be considered in making my decision.
Assessor supporting rational for decisionPOPLA is a single stage appeal service, we are impartial and independent of the sector. We consider the evidence provided by both parties to assess whether the PCN has been issued correctly by the parking operator and to determine if the driver has complied with the terms and conditions for the use of the car park or site. Our remit only extends to allowing or refusing an appeal. The parking operator’s signage within the site state: “For use by Stockport Elim Church patrons only between Mon – Fri 8am to 6pm – tariff applies outside of these times Parking tariff applies Mon – Fri 6pm to 8am, Sat & Sun 12am to 12 pm”, and if these terms and conditions are not met a charge of £100 will be issued. The images of the vehicle captured upon entry at 11:23:50 and exit at 11:34:29 on a Friday confirm the time the vehicle was on this land for 10 minutes; it is evident time within the car park was during the period for permit holders only. The operator has evidenced from its system report that there was no permit registered for this vehicle to park on this land on the date of the event. I will now consider the appellant’s grounds of appeal to determine if they dispute the validity of the PCN. The Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice (The Code) sets the standards its parking operators need to comply with. Section 3.1.1 of the Single Code of Practice states that there must be an entrance sign displayed and maintained at the entrance to the site, to inform drivers whether parking is permitted subject to terms and conditions or prohibited. Section 3.1.3 of the Single Code of Practice contains the requirements for signs displaying the terms and conditions. The signs must be placed throughout the site, so that drivers have the opportunity to read them when parking or leaving their vehicle. The terms and conditions must be clear and unambiguous, using a font and contrast that is be conspicuous and legible. Signs in general tend to have meaning, and signs within a car park are there to explain relevant terms to motorists wishing to park. I can see from the evidence pack there is an entrance sign. Entrance signs are an important part of establishing a contract and would put the driver on notice that terms and conditions applied. Further, specific terms and conditions signage are placed around this site, detailing the terms of use. These signs are in contrasting colours, and I believe they would have been clear and conspicuous to drivers who wish to use the site. I am satisfied from the evidence provided that the signage at the site meets the requirements of the single Code of Practice and that the appellant had sufficient opportunity to familiarise themselves with the terms and conditions. It is the driver’s responsibility to seek out the terms and conditions on arrival, and, if you agree with them, stay or if you did not agree with them leave the site. Whether the appellant read the terms and conditions is irrelevant, the appellant was afforded a reasonable opportunity to read them. As above, the appellant’s duration of stay was during the period for permit holders only, there is not option to pay during the period for permit holders only, which is why the appellant was unable to pay on the day, and which is why the message from the app told them to check the signage for more information. When parking on a private land, a motorist must be given reasonable time to decide whether they choose to accept the terms offered and remain at the site or reject the terms offered and leave the car park. If a motorist accepts the terms and parks, they must be allowed a period at the end of the contract to leave the car park. Section 5.1 of the Single Code of Practice states that parking operators must allow a consideration period of appropriate duration, subject to the requirements set out in Annex B to allow a driver time to decide whether or not to park. In this case the consideration period is five minutes, which the appellant exceeded on the day. The appellant became bound by the terms and conditions of the site by parking, waiting, or staying at the location for 10 minutes. I acknowledge the appellant says the parking operator is charging £100 for minutes, the appeal reasons raised have led me to consider the relevant case law of ParkingEye v Beavis. The Supreme Court considered private parking charges in a high-profile case, ParkingEye v Beavis. The Court recognised that parking charges have all the characteristics of a contractual penalty, but nevertheless were enforceable because there were legitimate interests in the charging of overstaying motorists. It concluded that a charge in the region of £85 was proportionate, and it attached importance to the fact that the charge was prominently displayed in large lettering on the signage itself. While the specific facts of the case concerned a free-stay car park where the motorist had overstayed, I consider the principles that lie behind the decision remain the same. Taking these principles into account, I am not going to consider whether the loss is a genuine pre-estimate of loss or whether it reflects a correct loss to the landowner. Rather, I am going to consider the charge amount in the appellant’s case, as well as the legibility of the signage. After reviewing the signage provided by the operator, I am satisfied that the signage is legible, and the charge amount is in the region of £85 and therefore allowable. The Court’s full judgement in the case is available online (www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2015-0116.html) should the appellant wish to read it. I appreciate the appellant did not intend to breach the terms and conditions, the signage at the site is clear that parking without a valid permit, regardless of the reason, would result in the issue of a PCN. By parking on site without a valid permit, the appellant has accepted the potential consequence of incurring a PCN. After considering the evidence from both parties, the appellant parked without a permit, and therefore did not comply with the terms and conditions of the site. As such, I am satisfied the parking charge has been issued correctly and I must refuse the appeal. Any questions relating to payment of the parking charge should be directed to the operator
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Any chance of some paragraph breaks to make the wall of text readable? Name of PPC would also provide some context (and link to any thread you have previously posted regarding the PCN, please).
Whatever, you know not to pay this, don't you? Only do so if a Judge so requires.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.#Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street1 -
the poster has an on going thread with more details ...0
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Private Parking Solutions (London) Ltd
Royal Victoria Dock, 1 Western Gateway, London, E16 1XL - Parked on Red Route
SuccessfulAssessor NameAlexandra RobyAssessor summary of operator caseThe operator’s case is that the motorist parked on a red route.Assessor summary of your caseFor the purpose of my report I have summarised the appellant’s grounds into the following points, and have checked each point before coming to my conclusion. The appellant has stated that:
• They made a lawful drop off under Transport for London guidance.
• The vehicle stopped briefly in a marked ‘taxi drop-off point only’.
• A contravention did not occur.
• The operator has failed to demonstrate that the vehicle was parked, left unattended, or remained beyond the necessary time for drop-off.
• The operator has misled them by asseting that the vehicle was parked in a taxi rank, thereby implying that private hire vehicles or non-taxis are prohibited from stopping, which is incorrect.
• By conflating a drop-off bay with a taxi rank, the operator has misrepresented the nature of the location and the applicable restrictions.
• They relied on the bay’s designation and signage, which permits dropping off.
• The operator’s attempt to enforce taxi rank restrictions in a drop-off bay is procedurally unfair and legally baseless.
• The fact that the bay was clearly marked as a taxi drop off point overrides general red route restrictions.• The signage is contradictory and ambiguous, and does not comply with the British Parking Association Code of Practice.• The location is governed by Railway Byelaws and it is therefore not relevant land under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. • The operator cannot pursue the keeper for the unpaid parking charge.
• The operator has shown a lack of transparency which undermines the legitimacy of the parking charge notice and violates the principles of procedural fairness.
After reviewing the operator’s evidence, the appellant has reiterated and expanded on their grounds of appeal. The appellant has also provided comments.Assessor supporting rational for decisionI am allowing this appeal with my reasoning below: The terms and conditions of the site state that a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) will be issued for parking on a red route. The operator has issued the PCN as the motorist parked on a red route.
Within its evidence file, the operator has provided photographs of the appellant’s vehicle parked on double red lines. However, I can see that the area is clearly marked as a drop-off zone for taxis. While dropping off is generally considered parking for purposes of parking management when assessing a POPLA appeal, the terms and conditions appear to contradict the nature of the area.
Having reviewed the operator’s case summary, it is evident that taxis are permitted to use the area for purposes of dropping off, but parking is not permitted. As such, I must consider whether the motorist parked.
Although both the operator and the appellant have made reference to Transport for London guidance, the event occurred on private land where this does not apply unless specified. I understand that the operator has differentiated between Licenced Hackney Carriages and Private Hire vehicles, but the markings indicate that dropping off is permitted for ‘taxis’ and does not specify. Within its evidence file, the operator has provided images of the appellant’s vehicle stationary within the taxi drop-off zone.
Having reviewed this evidence, I have been unable to determine whether the appellant was making a drop off, or was simply parked. I appreciate that the vehicle was there for five minutes, but this is not indicative of a drop-off or lack thereof. As such, in light of the evidence provided, I have been unable to determine whether the PCN was issued correctly.
Although I acknowledge the appellant’s other grounds of appeal and comments, addressing them will not have any bearing on my decision.
Accordingly, the appeal is allowed.6 -
@Bazarius, thanks for update above. Is there the name of the PPC available please, for context?Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.#Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street1 -
I believe I'm just to post the decision here, and will post the full case in a new thread.
This is copied from the PDF letter. I've added some extra paragraphs since the assessor provided a single block of text. The person who parked had to park with difficulty in a non-disabled parking space, and thus obviously didn't see the sign present in those bays.
Parking manager: Minster Baywatch
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Decision: UnsuccessfulAssessor summary of operator case: The operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) as the parking fee to cover the full duration of their stay wasn’t paid in full.
Assessor summary of your case:
The appellant has provided a detailed account of events. For the purpose of my report, I have summarised the grounds into the following points and have checked each point before coming to my conclusion. The appellant says that: 1. They feel the parking operator are deliberately attempting to deceive visitors to increase profits as they changed the simple pay on exit with automatic calculation to hidden pay on arrival and many visitors have reported this in the local paper. 2. Motorists put the wrong calculation when entering and the operator have not changed it back despite public uproar. 3.The site doesn’t have parking warden’s which explains why their wife couldn't find a disabled bay and suffered a lot of pain due to needing to climb through the other door and they questioned that the British Parking Association (BPA) member have to monitor disabled bays for abuse. 4. The operator's behaviour is why the government are scrutinising private parking firms. 5. The car park used to befree for Blue Badge holders but are no longer and the signage doesn’t make it clear. 6. There is no entrance entering the one way entrance and the signage wasn’t visible when entering the lift area. 7.The appellant reiterated their version of events in the motorist’s comments section and the operator never contested the image demonstrating no signage at the entrance of the property and the sitemap proves their point. 8. The signage is behind one as one enter the lift area. 9. They questioned where the parking machines are, as they can only see one for Barnaby Wilson. 10. The operator have redacted the landowner’s name and the other operators, and they want the landowner’s name to complain to them. The appellant included photographic evidence of the site entrance in support of their appeal. I have considered this in my decision.
Assessor supporting rational for decision:POPLA is a single-stage appeal service that is impartial and independent of the sector. When assessing an appeal, POPLA considers if the parking operator issued the parking charge notice correctly and if the driver complied with the terms and conditions for the use of the car park on the day. Our remit only extends to allowing or refusing an appeal. The signage on site forms the basis of the contract. The signage clearly demonstrates that the car park is a pay on arrival car park.
Firstly, I will discuss the photographic evidence the appellant has included of the entrance image which is not dated. This is not sufficient to rebut the operator's dated images. In relation to point 1, 2 and 4.POPLA’s remit is to assess if a PCN has been issued correctly based on facts, relevant law, and the applicable code of practice. We are only able to assess this case and are unable to discuss the appellant's feelings or opinions about the operator and the changes to the car park. Any comments about the changes to the terms and conditions and the unhappiness of other motorists would need to be raised with the operator directly outside of this appeals service.
In relation to point 3: This comment would again need to be raised with the operator directly as the reason for the PCN was for not paying for parking. Any comments about the lack of parking wardens on site monitoring the carpark is out of POPLA’s remit unless the reason for the PCN was the appellant parking in a disabled bay without displaying a valid Blue Badge.
In relation to point 5: This sector Code of Practice has been jointly created by the British Parking Association (BPA) and the International Parking Community(IPC). It is largely based on the Government’s Private Parking Code of Practice, which was published in February 2022, and subsequently withdrawn in June 2022. The new Code came into force on the 1October 2024. The Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice (The Code) sets the standards its parking operators need to comply with. Section 3.1.1 of the Single Code of Practice states that there must be an entrance sign displayed and maintained at the entrance to the site, to inform drivers whether parking is permitted subject to terms and conditions or prohibited. Section 3.1.2 of the Code contains the principles the entrance sign must display, including whether public parking is available and if a payment is required. Its design must also comply with the standard format as described in Annex A. The entrance sign must take into account the speed of vehicles approaching the car park. Section 3.1.3 of the Single Code of Practice contains the requirements for signs displaying the terms and conditions. The signs must be placed throughout the site, so that drivers have the opportunity to read them when parking or leaving their vehicle. The terms and conditions must be clear and unambiguous, using a font and contrast that is be conspicuous and legible. I am satisfied that the signage on site meets the single code of practice. Furthermore, section 4.1 of the Single Code of Practice states there must be at least one sign containing the terms and conditions that can be viewed without the driver needing to leave the vehicle, to allow disabled drivers to be able to make an informed decision on whether to park in the car park. In this case I can see clear signs in the disabled bays for motorists to see.
The appellant stated there was no signage by the lift area. There is no obligation for the operator to have additional signage in the lift area as they are only obliged to have one sign that is visible from the car, which the operator's evidence pack demonstrates is in place. I can see the disabled bays with clear signage is on page 51 and 78. Furthermore, where there is any material change to any pre-existing terms and conditions that would not be immediately apparent to a driver entering controlled land that is or has been open for public parking, the parking operator must place additional (temporary) notices at the site entrance for a period of not less than 4months from the date of the change making it clear that new terms and conditions/charges apply, such that regular visitors who might be familiar with the old terms do not inadvertently incur parking charges. I can see the signage is dated 19/03/25 and there is clear temporary signage to inform motorists of the terms and conditions change. This is clear on page 26 of the operator's evidence pack.
They raised new points in the motorist's comments section in relation to the parking machines and the landowner details. It should be noted that the motorist comments section is a place to expand upon the original grounds given and not to be used as a platform to introduce new grounds that the operator has not had the opportunity to review. As such, the new grounds of appeal given within the motorist comments section have not been considered in this appeal response.
Ultimately, the crux of this case is the responsibility lies with the motorist to keep to the terms and conditions of the car park. Even with a car park that they use often, motorists must regularly read signage to ensure they are aware of any terms and conditions of the car park. To prevent the same issue occurring, it may be beneficial to ensure they read the signage to understand what is expected of them when they park in the car park. Upon consideration of the evidence, the appellant never paid for parking and therefore did not comply with the terms and conditions. Accordingly, I have refused this appeal.2
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