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POPLA Decisions

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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Forumite Posts: 40,301
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    The parking operator has issued the parking charge notice (PCN) for failure to obtain a permit in accordance with the notified terms.
    Please supply the PPC name, otherwise a decision lacks important context. Well done on winning. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
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  • ChoccyJoJo
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    Umkomaas said:
    The parking operator has issued the parking charge notice (PCN) for failure to obtain a permit in accordance with the notified terms.
    Please supply the PPC name, otherwise a decision lacks important context. Well done on winning. 
    Ah sorry, its a Civil Enforecment one.
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 1 June at 8:39AM
    Umkomaas said:
    The parking operator has issued the parking charge notice (PCN) for failure to obtain a permit in accordance with the notified terms.
    Please supply the PPC name, otherwise a decision lacks important context. Well done on winning. 
    Ah sorry, it's a Civil Enforecment one.
    Thank you. 
    While I have noted the rate of the PCN is placed in a highlighted box, I must concur with the appellant that it is written in a small font, particularly in relation to the conditions that precede it. I must also state that I cannot consider the design of this sign is consistent with the signage considered in the case of ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis.
    POPLA seem to have the bit between their teeth in regard to the size and noticeability of the font displaying the PCN charge level. Looks like we can add Civil Enforcement Ltd (CEL) to Euro Car Parks (ECP) as open to a strong POPLA appeal point referencing their inadequate signage. For future appeals - Assessor: Andy Prescott. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Nice! Very good to have that POPLA Code. 
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  • YMike
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    Appeal against Spring Parking


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    Assessor Name   Robert Andrews
    Assessor summary of operator case

    The operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) due to unauthorised parking.

    Assessor summary of your case

    The appellant has provided comprehensive details of their grounds for appeal. In essence, their grounds of appeal come down to: • The signs in the car park are not prominent, clear or legible. • They state there is insufficient notice of the sum of the PCN. • There is no evidence of landowner authority and the parking operator is put to strict proof of full compliance with the British Parking Association (BPA). • The feel the parking operator has not complied with the BPA’s grace period. • The parking operator has not evidenced that they are pursuing the driver. • They feel the signs do not warn drivers of what the ANPR data will be used for. The above evidence  (All gleaned from this forum :) )   will be considered in making my determination.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    When an appeal comes to POPLA the burden of proof begins with the operator to evidence that the PCN has been issued correctly. Within their grounds for appeal, the appellant has stated that the signage does not warns drivers what the ANPR data is used for. The BPA has a Code of Practice which set the standards its parking operators need to comply with. Section 22.1 of the Code of Practice says that parking operators may use ANPR camera technology to manage, control and enforce parking in private car parks, as long as they do this in a reasonable, consistent and transparent manner. The signs at the car park must tell drivers that this technology is being used and what the data captured by ANPR cameras will be used for. In this case, the parking operator has provided evidence of their signage that is located around this site. While I note this signage refers to the CCTV cameras that are in use, there is no mention of ANPR or what the captured data is used for. With ANPR in use on this site, I would expect the parking operator to comply with the BPA and make motorists fully aware of what the data that is captured is used for. I note the evidence the parking operator has provided of a sign within the shop however, the terms and conditions must be located in the car park meaning that this sign is insufficient in details what the ANPR cameras are used for. As such, I must allow this appeal. I note the appellant has raised other grounds of appeal however, as I have allowed the appeal for the above reason, I will not be addressing these.



    Thanks everyone!!!!

  • Umkomaas
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    @YMike - thank you very much for the feedback, and very well done in achieving this with minimal forum help. 
    this sign is insufficient in details what the ANPR cameras are used for. As such, I must allow this appeal.
    Wow, not seen one of those before!  @YMike - would it be possible to annotate your post above with the POPLA Decision reference number please. Will be useful for future appeals.

    Original thread:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6431297/popla-apeal-spring-parkin#latest
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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  • h8prkingcowbois
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    PCN for parking at a commercial car park in cambridge that does not allow any parking after 9pm and 1 hour during business opening times. 4 charges received altogether which resulted in 2 POPLA appeal cases:

    Decision
    Successful
    Assessor Name
    Rachel Hankinson
    Assessor summary of operator case

    The parking operator issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN), however the reason for this has not been evidenced.

    Assessor summary of your case

    The appellant has raised the following points from their grounds of appeal: • The signage fails to adequately inform drivers of ANPR data usage and data • The signs are inconspicuous, not prominently displayed, clear legible or adequately lit • The signage is of a forbidding nature and does not make an offer, so misleads drivers • They request proof of the landowner authorisation for the site in question • They question what the purpose is of the operator issuing PCN’s and what losses they can justify if other vehicles are breaching the terms Evidence of another vehicle parked and signage has been provided towards their appeal. The appellant has provided comments in response to the operator’s evidence pack, reiterating their grounds of appeal in further detail.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    The appellant has raised several grounds for appeal. However, my findings will focus on the operator’s evidence of the alleged breach, as this has persuaded me to allow the appeal. In this case, the operator has not provided any evidence of the PCN issued to the appellant, or the signage on site. As such, the contravention reason cannot be established to determine if the appellant breached the terms and conditions offered at the car park. As the operator has not provided the required evidence for this appeal, it has not demonstrated that the PCN is valid. As such, the grounds given by the appellant do not require any comment or investigation. Accordingly, I must allow the appeal.

  • h8prkingcowbois
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    These were against Parking Eye Ltd by the way:

    Decision
    Successful
    Assessor Name
    Rachel Hankinson
    Assessor summary of operator case

    The parking operator issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) for remaining at the car park for longer than the stay authorised or without authorisation.

    Assessor summary of your case

    The appellant has raised the following points from their grounds of appeal: • The signage fails to adequately inform drivers of ANPR data usage and data • The signs are inconspicuous, not prominently displayed, clear legible or adequately lit • The signage is of a forbidding nature and does not make an offer, so misleads drivers • They request proof of the landowner authorisation for the site in question • They question what the purpose is of the operator issuing PCN’s and what losses they can justify if other vehicles are breaching the terms Evidence of another vehicle parked and signage has been provided towards their appeal. The appellant has provided comments in response to the operator’s evidence pack, reiterating their grounds of appeal in further detail.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    I am satisfied that having reviewed the ANPR images, the parking event itself occurred during darkness. In order for the operator to show that it has correctly issued the parking charge, it must demonstrate that the signage on site complies with the requirements defined by The British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice. Appendix B talks about signs being always readable and understandable, including during the hours of darkness or at dusk if parking enforcement activity takes place at those times. Whilst I am satisfied that the signs use clear and legible language on the signage images in daylight, no evidence has been provided to POPLA of the car park itself during darkness. Nor has evidence been provided which would demonstrate to me whether the signs can be read when a light source is shone upon them, for instance from a car. As the operator has not provided evidence of this to POPLA, I cannot establish whether the signage complies with the requirements defined by Appendix B of the BPA Code of Practice. As such, I am unable to ascertain whether the motorist was given sufficient notice of the terms and conditions when on site. Therefore, I am unable to assess the validity of the parking contract itself. As such, I conclude that the PCN has been issued incorrectly. Accordingly, I must allow this appeal.

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