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  • rmorgan89
    rmorgan89 Posts: 19 Forumite
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    Thanks for all the help. My appeal against Corporate Services Parking Management in Hereford was successful. 

    Decision
    Successful
    Assessor Name
    Michael Pirks
    Assessor summary of operator case

    In this case the operator has not submitted any evidence within the 21 days allowed, to show why it issued a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to the appellant.

    Assessor summary of your case

    I note the appellant has submitted grounds of appeal. However, as the operator has not given evidence within the time frame allowed, I do not need to consider the appellants’ submitted information in order to reach a decision about this appeal.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    POPLAs remit is to assess whether a PCN has been issued correctly, in accordance with the terms and conditions of parking displayed on the signage at a site. When assessing a charge the burden of proof initially lies with the operator. It must provide evidence of the terms and conditions of the parking site, how the driver was made aware of the specific parking conditions, how the terms of the parking contract were breached, and how the appellant was made aware of the charge. As the operator has not submitted a case file or evidence within the 21 day period allowed, I am unable to assess the validity of the charge. I note the appellant has submitted their reasons of appeal, however I have no need to consider this information. I cannot assess the validity of the charge and therefore I consider it was issued incorrectly and allow this appeal.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,309 Forumite
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    edited 5 March 2020 at 6:26PM
    gt1990 said:
    I need help and advice as I am clueless to where to go now...

    I provided my booking confirmation as the hotel suggested I do I even provided a Time stamped picture taken from my phone showing me entering my registration into the system
    They refused their argument is that it's not in their system
     @gt1990

    Wow.   You won't be paying this. 

    You need to email a complaint to John Gallagher, that you showed TIME STAMPED EVIDENCE from your phone that you did enter your VRN, and POPLA is meant to be an evidence-based service and the Assessor failed to consider that evidence.  What more is a consumer meant to do than film themselves putting in their VRN?!  

    You need to start you own new discussion thread please (not on this thread).


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  • Kuly
    Kuly Posts: 59 Forumite
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    Thanks for all your assistance folks, popla appeal succesful:

    Thank you for submitting your parking charge Appeal to POPLA.

     An Appeal has been opened with the reference nnnnnnnnn.

     APCOA Parking - have told us they do not wish to contest the Appeal. This means that your Appeal is successful and you do not need to pay the parking charge.

      

  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,402 Forumite
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    APCOA Parking - have told us they do not wish to contest the Appeal.
    They almost never do.  Nevertheless well done in not succumbing to their demands and getting the APCOA monkey off your back. 👌
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • KobeAlt
    KobeAlt Posts: 20 Forumite
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    Original thread: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6093067/cup-enforcement-popla-appeal/p1

    Decision
    Successful
    Assessor Name
    Natalie Hill
    Assessor summary of operator case

    The operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) for parking in a permit only parking area without clearly displaying a valid permit.

    Assessor summary of your case

    In summary of the appellant’s case he argues that there is no evidence of landowner authority. The appellant states that there is no evidence of the period parked. The appellant says that the Notice to keeper does not meet the Protection of Freedom Act (PoFA) 2012 requirements. The appellant argues that there are no entrance signs for the regular entry. He states that the signs in the car park are not prominent, clear or legible from all parking spaces. He says that there is sufficient notice of the terms and conditions or warning of the ANPR or what the data is being used for. The appellant states that the signage is of a forbidding nature. The appellant says there is no marked parking bay or boundary at the venue. The appellant advises that the operator has not considered any grace period which is not compliant with the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice. The appellant has provided a more details summary with the appeal.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    The appellant has been identified as the registered keeper, as such I will be considering his liability for the PCN. The operator has provided photographic evidence of the signage, which states: “NO UNAUTHORISED PARKING- TERMS OF PARKING APPLY AT ALL TIMES.” And: “THIS SIGN COVERS A MULTIPLE AMOUNT OF SPACES OR AREA, UNAUTHORISED, INCORRECT PARKED VEHICLES PARKED IN THE WRONG BAYS OR IN RESTRICTED AREA, ON DOUBLE YELLOW LINES OR BLOCKING OR PARKED ON ACCESS WILL RECEIVE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE…£100.” The operator has provided photographic images of the appellant’s vehicle parked on the car park. The images time stamped at 13:41 on 19 December 2019. show the vehicle did not have a permit on display in the windscreen or on the dash. The appellant argues that there are no entrance signs for the regular entry. He states that the signs in the car park are not prominent, clear or legible from all parking spaces. He says that there is sufficient notice of the terms and conditions or warning of the ANPR or what the data is being used for. When considering signage whether signage is sufficient at a site, I must first consider the minimum standards set out in Section 18 of the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice. Within Section 18.1 of the BPA Code of Practice, it states as follows: “You must use signs to make it easy for them to find out what your terms and conditions are.” Furthermore, Section 18.3 of the BPA Code of Practice states: “You must place signs containing the specific parking terms throughout the site, so that drivers are given the chance to read them at the time of parking or leaving their vehicle. Keep a record of where all the signs are. Signs must be conspicuous and legible, and written in intelligible language, so that they are easy to see, read and understand.” As stated, these are the minimum standards that a parking operator must meet when informing motorists of the terms and conditions at a particular site. In this case, I have examined images the signage displayed at the location and at the time of the parking contravention and I am not satisfied that they were easy to see, read or understand. I can see from the images provided that one of the signs was folded over and the other sign was partially obscured. I must also note the operator has highlighted that there are no entrance notices on this site. As I cannot see any further evidence of signage in the area where the appellant parked or that there was other sufficient signage in view nearby, I am satisfied the driver would not have been able to establish the terms and requirements needed to park. As such I therefore cannot consider whether the driver had entered into a parking contract or failed to comply with the terms and conditions. For this reason, I cannot consider the PCN to have been issued correctly. I must therefore allow this appeal. As I have allowed this appeal, I will not need to consider the other points made by the appellant.

  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,402 Forumite
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    Well done. Good win. 

    Signage, landowner authority and PoFA deficiencies are always good appeal points at POPLA, and, with well-presented evidence, win more often than not. Motorists only need to 'win' on just one of those points to get the ticket cancelled. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Dear <name>

    Thank you for submitting your parking charge Appeal to POPLA.

    An Appeal has been opened with the reference <nnnnnnnnnn>. 

    APCOA Parking - EW have told us they do not wish to contest the Appeal. This means that your Appeal is successful and you do not need to pay the parking charge.

    Yours sincerely

    POPLA Team


  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,402 Forumite
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    Dear <name>

    Thank you for submitting your parking charge Appeal to POPLA.

    An Appeal has been opened with the reference <nnnnnnnnnn>. 

    APCOA Parking - EW have told us they do not wish to contest the Appeal. This means that your Appeal is successful and you do not need to pay the parking charge.

    Yours sincerely

    POPLA Team


    Well done, yet another APCOA withdrawal when they obviously knew they had no prospect. Chancers just hoping those unfamiliar with the process put in weak, mitigating POPLA appeals, then I bet they don't withdraw so smartly!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • jkaur122
    jkaur122 Posts: 31 Forumite
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    edited 1 April 2020 at 10:13PM
    Reference:
    Parking Charge Notice - xxxxxx/xxxxxx
    POPLA Ref: xxxxxxxxxx
    Dear Sir / Madam,
    Thank you for your correspondence in relation to the Parking Charge incurred on xx December 2019 at xx:xx, at Hotel  car park.
    We are writing to advise you that your recent appeal has been unsuccessful and that you have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure. Our records confirm that no parking was purchased on the date of the parking event, despite there being payment methods available on the day in question.
    Please be advised:
     There is an independent appeals service (POPLA) which is available to motorists who have had an appeal rejected by a British Parking Association Approved Operator. Contact information and further information can be found enclosed. See also www.popla.co.uk
     As a gesture of goodwill, we have extended the discount period for a further 14 days from the date of this correspondence. If you appeal to POPLA and your appeal is unsuccessful you will not be able to pay the discounted amount in settlement of the Parking Charge, you will be liable to pay the full amount. If you have already paid the reduced amount, the Parking Charge will be increased to the full amount and you will be liable to pay this increase.
     By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services (www.ombudsman-services.org/) provides an alternative dispute resolution service that would be competent to deal with your appeal. However, we have not chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution service. As such should you wish to appeal then you must do so to POPLA, as explained above.
    xx February 2020
      ParkingEye Ltd, PO Box 117, Blyth, NE24 9EJ

    A payment can be made by telephoning our offices on 0330 555 4444 or by visiting www.parkingeye.co.uk or by posting a cheque or postal order to ParkingEye Ltd, PO Box 117, Blyth, NE24 9EJ.
    Yours faithfully, ParkingEye Team

    Decision
    Successful
    Assessor Name
    James Keeling
    Assessor summary of operator case

    The operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) for the following reason: “Either not purchasing the appropriate parking time or remaining at the car park for longer than permitted.”

    Assessor summary of your case

    The appellant had provided a lengthy document which outlines their grounds of appeal. However, my assessment will focus solely on their contention that the site was too dark for the motorist to read the signage.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision

    In this case, I cannot see that the driver of the vehicle has been identified at any point in the appeals process. As such, the operator is seeking to pursue the appellant as the registered keeper of the vehicle. The Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 sets out provisions for an operator to pursue the registered keeper of a vehicle, where the driver has not been identified. As the operator is seeking to pursue the keeper, I have reviewed the notice against the relevant sections of PoFA, and I am satisfied that the operator has complied with the act. As such, the appellant, as the registered keeper is now liable for the charge. The operator has provided images which show the signs with the terms and conditions. These images are all taken in full daylight. However, the operator has not provided any images of the signs at night. As such, I am unable to assess whether these signs would have been visible to the appellant. Whilst it is true that the driver of the vehicle does not need to have read the terms and conditions of the driving contract to accept it, there is a requirement that the driver is afforded the opportunity to read and understand the terms and conditions of the contract before accepting it. If the driver cannot see the signage because of light levels within the car park, they cannot be expected to know that there are terms and conditions to read. As I cannot assess whether the lighting was sufficient for the appellant to know that the signage was there, I cannot conclude whether the PCN was issued correctly. Accordingly, I allow this appeal. I note that the appellant has raised further grounds for appeal in this case, however as I have allowed the appeal for this reason, I have not considered them.

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