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civil penalty £50

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Benefits & Tax Credits
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edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Benefits & Tax Credits
I've posted a thread on another section about civil penalties.
Does anyone reading this section have any experience of the

£50 civil penalty

These came into affect in October 2012 and are imposed by any government benefit agency for failure to notify the agency of any change of circumstances immediatly you came aware of them
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  • vonvon Forumite
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    What did you want to know?
  • HappyMJHappyMJ Forumite
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    As I said earlier..decline the offer of a penalty and go to court.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • edited 9 March 2013 at 12:03AM
    tomtom256tomtom256 Forumite
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    edited 9 March 2013 at 12:03AM
    They don't have to take you to court, its not a fraud thing offered after an investigation.

    Mind if they do take you to court it will cost you considerably more as its an absolute offence. No need for an interview etc, plain and simple, change wasn't notified, here pay us £50 quid.

    Nice easy cash cow. Mind you, fufill your side of the claim and this penalty is not an issue.
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    As I said earlier..decline the offer of a penalty and go to court.

    THEY DO NOT GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COURT
    They do not give you the opportunity to dispute the aledge offence
  • tomtom256 wrote: »
    They don't have to take you to court, its not a fraud thing offered after an investigation.

    Mind if they do take you to court it will cost you considerably more as its an absolute offence. No need for an interview etc, plain and simple, change wasn't notified, here pay us £50 quid.

    Nice easy cash cow. Mind you, fufill your side of the claim and this penalty is not an issue.

    You are not given the opportunity of an interview
    You are not under caution
    You are given no proof of evidence
    you are not accused of fraud
    you are not guilty of any crime
    You are purely charged a fixed fee because they aledge they have not received information.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    it is purely COUGH UP £50
  • Am I the fist person in the Uk to receive a civil penalty ???
    Surely someone on this forum has received on before me !!!
  • edited 9 March 2013 at 8:42AM
    tomtom256tomtom256 Forumite
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    edited 9 March 2013 at 8:42AM
    You are not given the opportunity of an interview
    You are not under caution
    You are given no proof of evidence
    you are not accused of fraud
    you are not guilty of any crime
    You are purely charged a fixed fee because they aledge they have not received information.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    it is purely COUGH UP £50

    Erm yeah I thought that what I had typed, although in a different way!
  • tomtom256tomtom256 Forumite
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    Am I the fist person in the Uk to receive a civil penalty ???
    Surely someone on this forum has received on before me !!!

    So you have received one ok, whats the issue?

    You have a signature for delivery of your letter? A letter advising they have received you change notification etc and have actioned accordingly? You have neither but checked they had recieved it?

    Or you did jack and got the penalty?

    Not sure what your specifically asking about with regards help required!
  • LunaLadyLunaLady Forumite
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    What happens if you dont pay it?
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    Addicted to collecting Nectar Points!! :D
  • edited 9 March 2013 at 12:45PM
    epitomeepitome Forumite
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    edited 9 March 2013 at 12:45PM
    LunaLady wrote: »
    What happens if you dont pay it?

    First sensible question on the thread. More to the point, what happens if you refuse to pay it?..... EDIT ok it wasn't the "first sensible question" there were 2 others before this one.

    Does anyone know of the legisation that covers this?
    EDIT (see below) doc link, it's section 116 of the welfare reform act 2012


    It could become like the DVLA SORN penalty which are unenforceable to those "in the know".
    tomtom256 wrote: »
    You have a signature for delivery of your letter? A letter advising they have received you change notification etc and have actioned accordingly? You have neither but checked they had recieved it?
    If it's the same as SORN you wouldn't need either according to the Interpretations Act.
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