Sold a car - buyer drove it off without insurance

Aretnap

securityguy wrote: »

It might help to actually read the legislation, rather than post it as though it proves your point.

If you read it yourself you'd see tha's part of a statutory defence to using a car in the course of your employment when you didn't know it was uninsured. It has nothing to do with permitting.

Chopper_Read

Aretnap wrote: »

You can prevent it by not selling it to him in the first place if you know he's about to drive it away uninsured. I'm not saying a court would definitely agree with my reading. It's a slightly tenuous argument, but I don't believe it'r rubbish.

Believe what you like but permit no instance is committed by the owner or someone with control of the vehicle and not the previous keeper.

A court wouldn't convict as it wouldn't be put before them.

Chopper_Read

Aretnap wrote: »

If you read it yourself you'd see tha's part of a statutory defence to using a car in the course of your employment when you didn't know it was uninsured. It has nothing to do with permitting.

To be fair to him, you do need to read it.

Mistral001

Isn't witnessing a crime and not reporting it to the police not some sort of offense? OP will definitely get at least 10 years!!

PS: My logic would mean that everybody who saw a car speeding would be committing an offense if they did not report the driver to the police. We need to get a sense of proportion here.

Aretnap

Chopper_Read wrote: »

Believe what you like but permit no instance is committed by the owner or someone with control of the vehicle and not the previous keeper.

Is there an actual authority for that or is it your own opinion? It's a reasonable interpretation I grant, but so is mine.

If in opractice it wouldn't be put before a court then we'll never know who's right.

Aretnap

Mistral001 wrote: »

Isn't witnessing a crime and not reporting it to the police not some sort of offense?

Once upon a time yes, but only with respect to felonies. Nowadays it's not, with a few exceptions (treason and some terrorist offences spring to mind).

Mistral001

Aretnap wrote: »

Once upon a time yes, but only with respect to felonies. Nowadays it's not, with a few exceptions (treason and some terrorist offences spring to mind).

Thanks. It looks like I have been watching too many old films.

sunshinetours

As a now "previous owner" as of the time the contract of sale is completed, you have no liability for any motoring offences the new owner of that vehicle chooses to commit.

Stop worrying about it and just hope for others sake he didn't have an accident. Just make sure you send off your part of the V5 by recorded delivery (take a copy) ASAP

jonj123

Thanks for all the advice. I sent off the V5 documents by first class recorded delivery this morning. The mileage was mentioned on the V5 document too so I should hopefully be OK. One other thing is that the buyer signed off the V5 document in his partners name and signed it on her behalf (he said he knew her signature!). I'm pretty sure that's illegal but hopefully I won't be held responsible.

almillar

DVLA don't ask you to volunteer the mileage for their benefit, it doesn't benefit them at all.
It benefits everyone except people who want to clock cars.
If you tell them the cars mileage every year, say
10,000, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 then sell the car, then the next time it gets taxed the mileage is 15,000 the problem can be spotted.
It's in all our interests to report the mileage when asked...