Loss of Council House on Death of Parents

universalady_2

pulliptears wrote: »

I'm sorry but what a bloody horrible comment. Whichever family end up in the home it will be a family who desperately need a roof over their heads and for whatever reason cannot afford to put one there themselves.
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Sorry, can see the OP's friends POV on this, my friend lives next door to a rented out property, and for the second time has had asylum seekers living next door, who have made my friends lives hell. Rubbish including used loo roll/tampons/nappies being thrown over their fence, uneaten food left on the drives and in the garden so much so, there is now a major rat problem. All sorts of problems with domestic abuse leading to the police and various council officials attending the property at all times of the day and night. TV's & music on full blast day and night. And as an added slap in the face, they get EVERYTHING either paid for or given to them, kids taken to scholl by taxi, free school meals, free shopping, free access to satelite TV in their own language, etc etc, none of them work or have even attempted to as in their own words, they say they get more just by staying in the house!

peachyprice

WiseOldBird wrote: »

At the moment she has worst-case scenario fixed in her head that she's going to end up in a dingy flat in a terrible area, while a family of anti-social asylum seekers are going to end up in her much loved home. Am trying to be more positive with her.

Perhaps it will help her if you point out to her that it was never her house to keep, neither was it her parents, they were always only borrowing it from the council, as will the next family who needs it, regardless of who they are or how worthy your friend thinks they are.

Person_one

universalady wrote: »

Sorry, can see the OP's friends POV on this, my friend lives next door to a rented out property, and for the second time has had asylum seekers living next door, who have made my friends lives hell. Rubbish including used loo roll/tampons/nappies being thrown over their fence, uneaten food left on the drives and in the garden so much so, there is now a major rat problem. All sorts of problems with domestic abuse leading to the police and various council officials attending the property at all times of the day and night. TV's & music on full blast day and night. And as an added slap in the face, they get EVERYTHING either paid for or given to them, kids taken to scholl by taxi, free school meals, free shopping, free access to satelite TV in their own language, etc etc, none of them work or have even attempted to as in their own words, they say they get more just by staying in the house!

Sorry, even if the first bit's true its insane to think all asylum seekers behave like that.

The second bit just isn't true.

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/policy_research/the_truth_about_asylum

Mojisola

universalady wrote: »

And as an added slap in the face, they get EVERYTHING either paid for or given to them, kids taken to scholl by taxi, free school meals, free shopping, free access to satelite TV in their own language, etc etc,

That doesn't seem to tie in with this -

https://www.turn2us.org.uk/information__resources/benefits/migrants/asylum_seekers.aspx#Benefits

Tiddlywinks

How do you know they are 'asylum seekers' and not just another ignorant family? Ignorance comes from all walks of life?

seven-day-weekend

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

"They made it clear that they are under no obligation to find alternative accommodation for her, but under the circumstances they would"

That seems very fair. I understand that it's a childhood home but as single person she cannot expect to be able to keep hold of a property that's larger than she will need. The landlord could put a family on the waiting-list in there. Family-sized properties are like gold-dust.

She needs to investigate the LA's policy on succession and examine it with a microscope bearing in mind how she might be able to afford the rent on such a property. If she's been a full-time carer for some time she may not be able to afford the difference between the LHA-rate and the full rent if she's not in a decently-paid position when the time comes.

I agree with this. They could give her a one-bedroom flat and a family could have that house. It never was her house, or her parents', it is the Council's and they must use this scarce resource to its best advantage. Housing one person in a family-size social house is, imho, immoral if there is a choice for them to downsize. Many families will be living in cramped conditions waiting for that house.

Even if it is a family of asylum seekers, that is up to the Council and it will be a family occupying a family-sized home.

cockaleekee

Mojisola wrote: »

That doesn't seem to tie in with this -

https://www.turn2us.org.uk/information__resources/benefits/migrants/asylum_seekers.aspx#Benefits

The reality doesn't make for a good Daily Mail style rant

The whole prejudice against asylum seekers is based on nothing but ignorance. Legitimate asylum seekers will have experienced hardship beyond anything we can ever imagine, often combined with persecution, torture and goodness knows what else.

Mojisola

WiseOldBird wrote: »

She has lived in the same council house since she was 6 months old with her parents, who have the tenancy agreement in their names.

The day after her mother's death she was visited by a council representative who told her that she wasn't able to take over the tenancy, and that when her father dies (he can't have many years left unfortunately), that she would have to leave her home as she wasn't the 'tenant'.

They made it clear that they are under no obligation to find alternative accommodation for her, but under the circumstances they would.

I can understand her reaction. Your emotions can be all over the place after a death and the stress of being a full-time carer won't help either. It wasn't very kind of the council rep to turn up so soon after her Mum's death.

The prospect of losing both parents and the only home she's known and all the friends and neighbours in the area must be very daunting. She must feel as if she's having everything that's familiar to her taken away.

In her circumstances, it would be best if you can encourage her to look at the move to her own place as a positive thing. She will be able to rebuild her own life once she stops being a carer and having a smaller place will be easier for her as well as being cheaper to run.

teeni

pulliptears wrote: »

I'm a firm believer in housing people according to their needs. I know of an old gentleman who 30 years ago waved off his disabled daughter as she went to live in adapted accommodation for her needs. For the last 30 years this man has lived alone in a 3 bedroom council house adapted for wheelchairs. What an absolute slap in the face that has been to those who are on the waiting list in desperate need for an adapted home.

Now the new rules are coming into force he's been given a much more suitable bungalow and a much needed family home will be freed up.

if he is a pensioner he will not be effected by the changes so wont be forced to move anywhere,

Wine_of_the_World

As its not a huge amount what about a bank loan rather than mortgage - or could friends lend the money to buy it. Or perhaps put some of it on credit cards - perhaps not all of it but maybe a mix of savings / credit cards / friends she could get the money together to buy it.