Loss of Council House on Death of Parents

jellyhead

pulliptears wrote: »

Not at all, and I'm not disagreeing with you. I'll assume his move is bravado and he perhaps doesn't want to admit is time to leave.

As a further note to this, when the daughter left she did so with her mum as they divorced. Daughter was given a nice new adapted bungalow at the end of a run of properties. The bungalows were one bedroom and somehow the council were persuaded to build an extra bedroom on the end for the mother. Mother died some years ago and again daughter is alone now in a property with an extra uneeded bedroom funded from much needed housing and adaptation budgets.

I'm constantly amazed at a local authority that had the money to even cater for this whim in the first place to be honest.

It would have made more sense to leave the mum and daughter where they were, and find somewhere else for the father to live!

Claree__x

universalady wrote: »

Sorry, can see the OP's friends POV on this, my friend lives next door to a rented out property, and for the second time has had asylum seekers living next door, who have made my friends lives hell. Rubbish including used loo roll/tampons/nappies being thrown over their fence, uneaten food left on the drives and in the garden so much so, there is now a major rat problem. All sorts of problems with domestic abuse leading to the police and various council officials attending the property at all times of the day and night. TV's & music on full blast day and night. And as an added slap in the face, they get EVERYTHING either paid for or given to them, kids taken to scholl by taxi, free school meals, free shopping, free access to satelite TV in their own language, etc etc, none of them work or have even attempted to as in their own words, they say they get more just by staying in the house!

If they're asylum seekers they don't have permission to work in the UK - just as an aside to the rest of your bullsh!t.

pulliptears

jellyhead wrote: »

What are extra care flats? Are they those little estates of retirement homes that are being built everywhere? Do they have a warden, like sheltered housing? How much do they cost, and would housing benefit cover it?

Just curious

Extra cares are mostly run by housing associations round here, my elderly aunt was finally persuaded to leave her 2 bed council home 3 years ago and move into one. As far as I'm aware her rent is paid in full by hb.
They are usually aimed at over 55's and are designed so you can live independently but with help should you need it. There are usually wardens on site.

My aunt had a new lease of life actually, activities in common rooms, hairdressers visiting, new friends etc it has really brought her out of her shell at 90!

On the other hand my uncle recently sold his home to move to one which he pays his own rent. He is early 60's and currently entirely independent so he doesn't really use the extra facilities much at all, but he's comforted in the knowledge that there is always someone there should be need them.

teeni

jellyhead wrote: »

It would have made more sense to leave the mum and daughter where they were, and find somewhere else for the father to live!

yes but 30 years ago it was a very different world.

Wine_of_the_World

cockaleekee wrote: »

An unsecured loan for £60,000? :eek:

I was thinking a mix of loans / credit cards, any savings she and her dad have / money her friends could lend her. Just as a possibility as it would seem difficult / impossible to get a mortgage.

In this case it will probably be cheaper to pay off the loans / credit cards / friends etc than to rent elsewhere.

ska_lover

WiseOldBird wrote: »

At the moment she has worst-case scenario fixed in her head that she's going to end up in a dingy flat in a terrible area, while a family of anti-social asylum seekers are going to end up in her much loved home. Am trying to be more positive with her.

Thanks again.

I know some people do not agree with this, but I do.

There is far too much of bleeding heart liberalism which has landed us in the current situation, and it isn't a jot to do with racism (although I am sure a complete stranger will be along in a minute to tell me exactly what is going on in my head..) it is about simple mathematics and economics. Too many people - not enough houses/jobs (or doctors/dentists etc) to go round.

People are scared to death of agreeing as the liberalists will point the racism finger, but it is very short sighted to think that. If tens of thousands of british people suddenly appeared, I would think the same. It is hugely concerning, and as the general public going along with it, I worry for our future generations massively

I feel hugely sorry for the OP to loose her mother and her home is almost too much to bear thinking about.

pulliptears

jellyhead wrote: »

It would have made more sense to leave the mum and daughter where they were, and find somewhere else for the father to live!

Madness really, you would hope that something like that wouldn't happen today though (though I wouldn't be at all surprised if it did).
You could argue is those you talk about with sight and mobility issues who would be better placed in extra care accommodation though.

jackyann

Going back to OP, and ignoring your friend's comment, I think she should approach the local Carers' Association (it may be called different things, but Social Services /District Nurses will know how to find it)
It won't help her with keeping her home (and I realise that she is of a generation that had a different attitude to council housing so have some sympathy)
But I do think they will support her in dealing with the council, and getting appropriate accommodation, and claiming any benefits she may be entitled to. As for the comment that "we" would be paying her rent: without her "we" would have paid a great deal to care for her parents.
I hope she doesn't repeat her angry comments to anyone else - they will not help her case.

Claree__x

ska_lover wrote: »

I know some people do not agree with this, but I do.

There is far too much of bleeding heart liberalism which has landed us in the current situation, and it isn't a jot to do with racism (although I am sure a complete stranger will be along in a minute to tell me exactly what is going on in my head..) it is about simple mathematics and economics. Too many people - not enough houses/jobs (or doctosr/dentists etc) to go round.

People are scared to death of agreeing as the liberalists will point the racism finger, but it is very short sighted to think that.

Nothing to say she won't end up in a dingy flat in a terrible area but a family are going to end up (rightly so) in her home. Why is it an issue where they're from?

jellyhead

pulliptears wrote: »

Madness really, you would hope that something like that wouldn't happen today though (though I wouldn't be at all surprised if it did).
You could argue is those you talk about with sight and mobility issues who would be better placed in extra care accommodation though.

Maybe so, but only if they choose it. My Nan chose to move but I think she was only 71, and I agree that it was better for her.

She had family to help and visit her, and she had already moved recently so she wasn't close to neighbours, etc. I think an elderly person without close ties to children would be much more reliant on the local community.