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Brown's raid on pensions costs Britain £100 billion
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Rationed treatment for anything less than 50% payment of ni stamps or 80% attendance at welfare to work if you are on jsa, during your working life would be a good start.
Same for drunks and addicts.
So what happens to those that don't meet that criteria?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
no he didnt. he said that which had evolved to its surroundings would survive. and you ignored my point regarding paying insurance if you want to come here.
Darwin talked about survival of the fittist by means of natural selection.
He defined the fittist to be those that survived and bred and then reproduced.
I don't think Darwin said anything about insurance.0 -
Don't come without insurance would be my suggestion
I am funding it for my move to the UAE, why should anyone else be different if they come here? It will keep out the dross who can't afford it to start, and those who can't who were too stupid and risked coming without, well, I take it you have heard about Charles Darwin and his theory right?
At the risk of baiting you.:)... this morning on Sky a Romanian Government representative said it was not a problem as he has been assured by the British Government that EU citizens visiting/working in the UK will be afforded the same benefits and services that other EU citizens get when they visit any EU country.
It seems that whever the political rhetoric in today's papers the position is being clearly stated by the UK Government to the Romanians.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
and you ignored my point regarding paying insurance if you want to come here.
I genuinely think it would be a great idea, might even provide some much needed employment for the administrators, claimed back from the insurance company and ultimately the insured via increased premiums.
How would you enforce it?
Make it a visa/entry condition? How would that work for EU visitors who aren't checked?
When I visited a hospital to see a relative recently I did see a formal notice asking you to inform them if you weren't entitled to NHS care.
Would every one need to be checked and an ID card carried for those with the entitlement?
For EU citizens they are entitled to basic care I believe and their countries in turn reciprocate. If we enforced the need for insurance presumably we would also need to pay for it when we travelled to EU countries."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »So what happens to those that don't meet that criteria?
Only emergency or palliative care. you dont pay for it, you dont get it. no treatments for chronic ilness due to dirty little habits such as smoking, alcohol or drugs for example.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »I genuinely think it would be a great idea, might even provide some much needed employment for the administrators, claimed back from the insurance company and ultimately the insured via increased premiums.
How would you enforce it?
Make it a visa/entry condition? How would that work for EU visitors who aren't checked?
When I visited a hospital to see a relative recently I did see a formal notice asking you to inform them if you weren't entitled to NHS care.
Would every one need to be checked and an ID card carried for those with the entitlement?
For EU citizens they are entitled to basic care I believe and their countries in turn reciprocate. If we enforced the need for insurance presumably we would also need to pay for it when we travelled to EU countries.
enforcement? same as anywhere else in the world. try to use a hospital with no insurance card, either walk away or get the credit card with a very large limit out. we have reciprocal agreements with the uk that would need to be honoured.0 -
enforcement? same as anywhere else in the world. try to use a hospital with no insurance card, either walk away or get the credit card with a very large limit out. we have reciprocal agreements with the uk that would need to be honoured.
So these hospitals would just put you in dumpster if you couldn't pay?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Only emergency or palliative care. you dont pay for it, you dont get it. no treatments for chronic ilness due to dirty little habits such as smoking, alcohol or drugs for example.
I always find this argument interesting.
The governemnt allow the sale of alcohol and tobacco and earn a good revenue stream off them. There must be a balancing equation in favour of the governemnt or surely they would be banned outright?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »So these hospitals would just put you in dumpster if you couldn't pay?
We watched the film The boy in the striped pajamas on tv the other night, I could just imagine Paul above in the camp Commandant's uniform and the pain of that horrific Karma
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »So these hospitals would just put you in dumpster if you couldn't pay?
Yep. It's what every other nation does. Don't go abroad without healthcare insurance. It's pretty straightforward really!0
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